Polished intake, not just the plenum....
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From: Toh-rensa,Ahteesia,Ahcadia,Montree Pak, Longa Beacha
Re: Polished intake, not just the plenum....
I'm going to update this thread with a few more pics and a rough dyno graph from yesterday's Socal dyno.
First, here's the dyno.
What I've done is convert my dyno runs into excel data. This isn't exact, since I didn't have the raw numbers from the first two runs, and I'm waiting for THX723 to email me the raw numbers from yesterday. But the plots here are within 1 HP of the original dyno graph representations.
Dyno 1 was done around 2/2004 with about 9K miles at Strictly Dyno in Reseda (above ground dynojet)
Mods were: grounding kit, Z-tube
Peak numbers were 219.7 HP, 228 torque
Dyno 2 was done around 6/2004 again at Strictly Dyno with about 13K miles
Mods were: grounding kit, Z-tube, popcharger, UR crank pulley, Kinetix V3 plenum (cracked on outside, but I didn't see cracks on the inside when I took it off)
Peak numbers were about 223 HP, 220 torque
Dyno 3 was yesterday at Church Dyno on a Dynapack. Car had about 18K miles.
Mods were: grounding kit, Z-tube, popcharger, UR crank pulley, Crawford V5 plenum, and all the port-matching/polishing that you see in this thread.
Peak numbers were 254 HP, 244 or so torque.
**the dynopack will give higher numbers than the dynojet. THX723 was also at the dyno day for dyno run 2. He ran about 241 HP. With those mods he ran about 251 on the Church dynopack. Therefore on my graph, I've already taken the dyno run 3 numbers down by 10 HP across the RPM range.
The dynos will have variation, I understand that, therefore, I'm not making a big deal about the absolute numbers. But it's interesting to look at the shape of curve 3. Below 5000 RPM it follows the same path as the previous two runs. Above that the car starts to really open up. My butt dyno has always felt that the top end was greatly improved with this mod, but I try not to make any hard statements on gains without a dyno.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by E_K on 09/05/04 04:30 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
337381-dynoek.jpg
First, here's the dyno.
What I've done is convert my dyno runs into excel data. This isn't exact, since I didn't have the raw numbers from the first two runs, and I'm waiting for THX723 to email me the raw numbers from yesterday. But the plots here are within 1 HP of the original dyno graph representations.
Dyno 1 was done around 2/2004 with about 9K miles at Strictly Dyno in Reseda (above ground dynojet)
Mods were: grounding kit, Z-tube
Peak numbers were 219.7 HP, 228 torque
Dyno 2 was done around 6/2004 again at Strictly Dyno with about 13K miles
Mods were: grounding kit, Z-tube, popcharger, UR crank pulley, Kinetix V3 plenum (cracked on outside, but I didn't see cracks on the inside when I took it off)
Peak numbers were about 223 HP, 220 torque
Dyno 3 was yesterday at Church Dyno on a Dynapack. Car had about 18K miles.
Mods were: grounding kit, Z-tube, popcharger, UR crank pulley, Crawford V5 plenum, and all the port-matching/polishing that you see in this thread.
Peak numbers were 254 HP, 244 or so torque.
**the dynopack will give higher numbers than the dynojet. THX723 was also at the dyno day for dyno run 2. He ran about 241 HP. With those mods he ran about 251 on the Church dynopack. Therefore on my graph, I've already taken the dyno run 3 numbers down by 10 HP across the RPM range.
The dynos will have variation, I understand that, therefore, I'm not making a big deal about the absolute numbers. But it's interesting to look at the shape of curve 3. Below 5000 RPM it follows the same path as the previous two runs. Above that the car starts to really open up. My butt dyno has always felt that the top end was greatly improved with this mod, but I try not to make any hard statements on gains without a dyno.
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by E_K on 09/05/04 04:30 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
337381-dynoek.jpg
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Re: Polished intake, not just the plenum....
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Re: Polished intake, not just the plenum....
Here's another pic. The only place where I removed a moderate amount of material other than portmatching was in the openings of the intake runners. I tried to widen the "mouths" of these runners.
337385-P&P 004a.jpg
337385-P&P 004a.jpg
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From: Toh-rensa,Ahteesia,Ahcadia,Montree Pak, Longa Beacha
Re: Polished intake, not just the plenum....
Yup, I'm crazy enough that I even portmatched the popcharger venturi ring to the MAF housing tube. This is essentially trying to get gains for free.
337389-Portmatch 002a.jpg
337389-Portmatch 002a.jpg
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From: Toh-rensa,Ahteesia,Ahcadia,Montree Pak, Longa Beacha
Re: Polished intake, not just the plenum....
Let me explain this pic. The intake manifold is closer to the viewer, and the lower plenum is farther. I have a light source at the opening of the lower plenum, and the camera is aiming up the intake runner path. On the engine, air would be coming towards you as it heads down into the cylinder heads.
I took this pic to try and capture the portmatching and the polish work that went on inside the intake manifold and lower plenum.
337395-P&P 010a.jpg
I took this pic to try and capture the portmatching and the polish work that went on inside the intake manifold and lower plenum.
337395-P&P 010a.jpg
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From: Toh-rensa,Ahteesia,Ahcadia,Montree Pak, Longa Beacha
Re: Polished intake, not just the plenum....
Just in case anyone is wondering, this is how the lower plenum intake runners look in stock form.
337398-Plenum 008a.jpg
337398-Plenum 008a.jpg
Re: Polished intake, not just the plenum....
Nice work ... looks soooo perrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrty 
BTW ... I just e-mailed you the Excel file I created with your raw data in there. I will be writing and posting analysis for everybody's runs (including yours).
Your numbers looked solid given the type of mods you have. And yes, DynaPack numbers (for our purpose) is approx. 10-15hp higher than DynoJet's. Looking at your AF curves ... it appears you can also benefit from the Technosquare ECU, mostly from a safety stand point of view. You may also recieve some additional power gain as well.
Clint (THX723)

BTW ... I just e-mailed you the Excel file I created with your raw data in there. I will be writing and posting analysis for everybody's runs (including yours).
Your numbers looked solid given the type of mods you have. And yes, DynaPack numbers (for our purpose) is approx. 10-15hp higher than DynoJet's. Looking at your AF curves ... it appears you can also benefit from the Technosquare ECU, mostly from a safety stand point of view. You may also recieve some additional power gain as well.
Clint (THX723)
Re: Polished intake, not just the plenum....
Nice work E_K and thanks for the pic's! I'm glad that the polishing work and dollars spent (Crawford plenum) delivered Hp & Torque gains.
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