thanks Learn2turn for the info.



BS G35C 6spd navi/aero/prem

 

"At end, a coupe is still 200lb heavy than a Z with same level of stripping."

yes the G might still be 200lbs heavier then the Z with equal stripping, but that isnt possible.

The Z doesn't have that much to strip out, the G has lots of interior and extra accessories.

the chassis are different so that changes the whole ratio again. The 2 cars differ in more ways then people think. The only thing the 2 cars share is the engine.

learn2turn probably didn't start out with the Z cause he knows the benifits that the G has over the Z, including the looks.

BS G35C 6spd navi/aero/prem

 

OvaYaHead, Your exactly right on both accounts.

INFINITI
Service Consultant

 

yo OvaYahead,

what if you forgot about the stripping and just added an e-charger?
haha.. j/p j/p j/p =P

'03 G35 Sedan: ivory/aero body/sport/sunroof
Warning: Objects in mirror are FASTER than they appear

 

=X haha that was low. Sorry Tim.

KongzGx good point though.

A g35coupe and 350z with a eram will still be the same.....
As stock!




BS G35C 6spd navi/aero/prem

 

haha.. well, maybe a little worse than stock

'03 G35 Sedan: ivory/aero body/sport/sunroof
Warning: Objects in mirror are FASTER than they appear

 

Sure, they would be very comparable in straight line performance I would think. Of course, premium fuel would be needed. Exhaust would be helpful too. Cornering would still be the coupe's forte, but straight line would be right there.

Andrew

2003 coupe 6MT blue premium aero (on order)

 

Since this is a G forum, I am not going to argue how they look with you guys. But you can only stripe out so much from a car and keep it legal on road.
Even you cut everything interial down to bone, that's less than 200lb reduction in weight. What really matter are engine/body/suspension/glasses. Just by looking at Z and G coupe have same chassis design, yet G has bigger passenger box, that's where more steel apply to. More glasses area.
When I said same level of stripping, I am thinking more like : do you want to keep AC? or windshield wiper?
G will still be 200lb heavy than Z, unless you start to gut metal out from frame.....

1993 300ZX NA Stg VI
G35c supercharged in the future

 

They may start out 200lbs apart, and in the end the Z may still be lighter, but the G has more to strip. You can take the back seat out of a G, the Z doesn't have one. That closes the gap. Etc. The G will still be heavier, but it'll be less than 200lbs heavier.

Of course, most people that buy a G want the back seat, and the performance is close enough and a little more comfortable to live with daily.

Also, the G35's and the 350Z share more than just an engine. They share transmissions and the lovely FM platform. In the end, I don't think it matters if you get a G35, a 350Z, or an FX35. Anything with a VQ35 engine strapped to an FM platform is going to be downright pleasurable. Some just handle more cargo than others. [img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]

2003.5 G35 Sedan Desert Platinum/Graphite Premium/Sport/Aero/Nav/Winter

 

Well, I feel I should add some info here. I own a fully loaded coupe, save 6MT. Prefer manumatic. Now about the GVW (Gross Vehicle Weight), I just went to look too, to confirm, my Coupe is a whopping 4360, so she is HEAVY. Now that being said. I do not believe that just a chip is going to gain the missing power, for a few reasons I will detail here. Aside from owning the Coupe I have driven & used for many consecutive days in a row, a number of different times, the Sedan. So as stated before, yes, exhaust is a key factor, engine tuning is also a factor, intake is also a factor. Another VERY interesting variable is that the Coupe uses dual electric fans to cool the engine, attached to the radiator. The Sedan had a clutched fan attached directly to the engine, that's called constant engine DRAG. Now I also did the "Phresh Dyno" post, & had my Coupe down to K & N for prototyping of a CAI & they DYNO'd my car. There are still many details I can not discuss re: that situation, as I am under NDA by K & N, but it would be fair to say, they are having a MUCH better time getting real #'s out of our G's than the Z's. I pulled my G in at the K & N lab right next to a brand new Z the day I brought it in. If you find my previous post in the Tech/Mod section, you will see actual scans of the Dyno results, with the stock intake using an OEM fit K & N, they would not allow me to have / post the Dyno's for the prototype CAI system. Another guy with a 6MT Coupe did not show as good a numbers for his Coupe when he had a Dyno done elsewhere, as they did on my 5-Manumatic, could be any # of reasons for that. But to stick to the topic, I certainly think the Sedan can be tuned & let's say awoken a bit, but for any tuning you do, you can also tune the Coupe & trust me, I have seen with just the CAI alone, it will pick up some nice #'s, hell, even the drop in / OEM fit K & N on the stock intake, was good for 5 HP in the averages, & a max of 7 HP still in the averages, in each gear range tested.

I had my Coupe in for some service this week, & got a Sedan as a loaner, & tried to drive like I do in my Coupe. Couldn't. Slid around the in the drivers seat, tires sqawked around corners, Slip dash light was coming on ALL the time. Not in my Coupe, unless it's raining, my slip light NEVER comes on with those dammed 18" Pilots, I almost can't make a squawk around a corner she just handles so well. No limited slip on the Sedan, all these things add up. Some are direct power, some handling, but power without handling is not very useful. Balance is the key there & the sport suspension on the Coupe is unbelieveable!

Just my few thoughts.. I know much of this is all subjective, but since I have spent time, considerable time, really driving both cars, & have looked under the hoods, studied, & been to K & N & talked with the engineers there, been through DYNO runs, I feel this info is at least worth contributing... I would never tell someone not to tweak / tune a Sedan. It's a great car, go for it, I just figure though, why try to wind up where the Coupe starts out. If you want to tune / tweak something, tune the Coupe, for I have seen what even just basic tuning will do, the CAI alone will be impressive.

As an aside, I know some other companies are showing CAI's for the Coupe, & , I forget the brand name, but I have read it is just a hack of the one for the Sedan. Not a good deal, I got the same HP increase with a 45.00 OEM fit K &N & the stock intake, as with their 300.00 CAI. Wait for the K & N, they are REALLY designing it from the ground up for the Coupe, I know, they did it on my car, along with about 4 others. It will be worth the wait too. Plus if you do Chips, Exhaust, weight reductions, etc., you gain even more. Personally I would never strip my Coupe, she's so beautiful just as she is. Funny too, I had a guy in a brand new Z behind me just last night. We took off from a red light, I was ahead of him, & when done, I slowed down, he pulled up next to me & gave me the thumbs up, I smiled & waved, & went on my way. I really love my G!!!!


Randy


G35C / Brilliant Silver / Willow - Titanium
Aero / Nav / Premium / Performance
Manumatic / K&N OEM Fit / PIAA Super Plasma GT Fog/High replacement

 

well, u sure said a mouthful..

'03 G35 Sedan: ivory/aero body/sport/sunroof
Warning: Objects in mirror are FASTER than they appear

 

LOL this guy.. man so sarcastic

BS G35C 6spd navi/aero/prem

 

I didn't take it as sarcastic at all. Randy's quite knowledgable about our G's and just wants to share that with us. More than that he's been involved with K&N on the developement of a brand new CAI for the Coupe, which looks very promising to produce a substantial HP gain. He can't talk about it now but should be available soon.
As far as the differences BTW the 2 cars goes, I feel much the same, having owned both myself. I haven't explored the limits by any means of the Coupe but it sure feels even more sporty, and even more stable than the Sedan. Give him some kudos for taking the time to share all this stuff with us guys. He's alright.[img]/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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