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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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NOS or SC or Turbo...?

Okay, so I've been looking to get some type of FI upgrade on my car (eventually)... I originally was going to go with a Vortech SC, then I asked around and it appeared I'd end up spending 7-9k for the kit, install, and supporting mods..

so then i went to look into some nitrous kits, which would appear to run me 2500 w/ gauges, utec and install... someone told me that n2o is really only good on straight-ways, not really good in the long run and on curves... is there truth to that?

my goals:
an upgrade that won't affect the life of the engine significantly (i kno itll strain it regardless over time regardless, just want it minimized)

have a significant hp/tq boost for a daily driver, but not meant to battle on any TTs or SCs

it will not be on the track all that often, so i dont really want a 10-12sec car


so with those goals in mind, would n2o be worth it? i know ill need to refill the tank now and then which costs $$, but ill have 2 tanks ill be swapping out when one runs out, also i wont be running it everyday
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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what about a Stillen supercharger, it is the only "safe" supercharger and you can get a warrenty with stage 2. It costs more than nitrous but less than a vortech. This might be the best bang for the buck.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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also stillen has no need for a tune or gauges, although i would want gauges to make sure everything is working safely.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kleicoupe
what about a Stillen supercharger, it is the only "safe" supercharger and you can get a warrenty with stage 2. It costs more than nitrous but less than a vortech. This might be the best bang for the buck.

with the Hood + Paint Stillen is more expensive than Vortech. Stillen's warranty is only for the block and nothing else, so you still need to pay for labor and other parts. Also good luck on cashing the warranty, there was a big thread in My350Z who blew his motor on stage 2 and Stillen gave him a hard time on the Warranty (Not sure if he did get it) not to mention the max you can get out of Stillen even with stage 4 is 350whp (If you're lucky)


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also stillen has no need for a tune or gauges, although i would want gauges to make sure everything is working safely.
Same case with Vortech, you don't need a gauge but you would want one to make sure you're boosting OK.
 

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Okay, so I've been looking to get some type of FI upgrade on my car (eventually)... I originally was going to go with a Vortech SC, then I asked around and it appeared I'd end up spending 7-9k for the kit, install, and supporting mods..

so then i went to look into some nitrous kits, which would appear to run me 2500 w/ gauges, utec and install... someone told me that n2o is really only good on straight-ways, not really good in the long run and on curves... is there truth to that?

my goals:
an upgrade that won't affect the life of the engine significantly (i kno itll strain it regardless over time regardless, just want it minimized)

have a significant hp/tq boost for a daily driver, but not meant to battle on any TTs or SCs

it will not be on the track all that often, so i dont really want a 10-12sec car


so with those goals in mind, would n2o be worth it? i know ill need to refill the tank now and then which costs $$, but ill have 2 tanks ill be swapping out when one runs out, also i wont be running it everyday

I know this is the second time you posted about Nitrous. The bottom line is you can't afford a SC, ST and TT so you try to find the best bang for your $$$. N20 is good for one thing and that is Drag, take it for what it's worth and deal with its shortcoming. If you want to Track/Street then SC and Turbo is your kit coz the power will always be there unlike Nitrous you have keep your bottle open and warm especially in the winter.

Honestly, If you can't afford a SC then I would turn around and wait for more $$$ coz if you're having problem spending $$5K+ then what happen if you blow your motor? I don't think you'll drive everyday with your bottle open and what happen if all of a sudden you wanted to punch it to over take someone or what if someone cut you over and you want to catch up with the guy to give him the finger OOPPSS sorry can't catch up coz the bottle is close.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AthenG
I know this is the second time you posted about Nitrous. The bottom line is you can't afford a SC, ST and TT so you try to find the best bang for your $$$. N20 is good for one thing and that is Drag, take it for what it's worth and deal with its shortcoming. If you want to Track/Street then SC and Turbo is your kit coz the power will always be there unlike Nitrous you have keep your bottle open and warm especially in the winter.

Honestly, If you can't afford a SC then I would turn around and wait for more $$$ coz if you're having problem spending $$5K+ then what happen if you blow your motor? I don't think you'll drive everyday with your bottle open and what happen if all of a sudden you wanted to punch it to over take someone or what if someone cut you over and you want to catch up with the guy to give him the finger OOPPSS sorry can't catch up coz the bottle is close.
you have some good points... but there is a remote bottle opener...

http://www.performancefactory.com/st...bb310e09d61c74

I am also debating getting me some nos.....if you just want some more horsepower for everyday use, get exhaust, headers, hi-flow cats, intake and a tune, and maybe some other mods. I know you said you dont want a track beast, but what numbers are you looking for? 300 wheel? 400 wheel?.

Nos is really just for drag racing, just one of those mods to get you ahead in the race.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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/\ I'm well aware of the bottle opener and those opener are very slow on opening. I'm just making a point that it is a pain to use Nitrous on the street. I have a ST and when just cruising and some ***** wanted to mess with me it is still a pain to wait for full boost just to catch up.
 
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I think the main point here, which AthenG already pointed out, is that if it is not really in your budget to even spend $5k, you need to be patient and keep saving. NOS can blow your engine just as easily as a SC/T/TT can. You need to make sure that you not only have enough to do the build, but also enough backup should you happen to blow your engine. If you don't have the backup and you blow your engine, you are really gonna be SOL.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Hexxum001
I think the main point here, which AthenG already pointed out, is that if it is not really in your budget to even spend $5k, you need to be patient and keep saving. NOS can blow your engine just as easily as a SC/T/TT can. You need to make sure that you not only have enough to do the build, but also enough backup should you happen to blow your engine. If you don't have the backup and you blow your engine, you are really gonna be SOL.

agreed. For now if you cannot afford an engine build/re-build, go with the basic mods and hope for some decent numbers. IE. full exhaust, intake, spacer, pullys (maybe), and a tune. Maybe that MRev thing but i dont know about it.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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/\ I would get the MREV first before any of your mod. MREV is the only mod that you can actually feel the improvement.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GinFLA
agreed. For now if you cannot afford an engine build/re-build, go with the basic mods and hope for some decent numbers. IE. full exhaust, intake, spacer, pullys (maybe), and a tune. Maybe that MRev thing but i dont know about it.
My stillen stage 4 is for sale if you want to stay under 5 grand,you can get the kit and have it installed for about 4 grand.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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what mrev thing?

its not that i cant get the funds to do an SC/T/TT, but its that i dont want to spend that much... if the engine blows, i have the funds to cover fixing it up, but for me, its more like.. i could spend 2500+engine if it blows, or 7k+engine if it blows...

im getting the hks hipower, spacer, cats soon, but on the more significant mod such as n2o/tt/sc/etc, is what im trying to sort it out

theres advantages and disadvantages to all of the upgrades, but my main concern is if n2o will put more or less strain on the engine vs the sc/t/tt, which would entail to either more or less risk of blowing the engine.. if its the same, i will go with n2o, so that i have more funds later on to do other things like exhaust, cats, etc.
 

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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ah, ok, i kno what the mrev is now that i just looked it up.. ill add that to my to-get list
 
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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had nos on a g35, its a waste - slow to open, refilling annoying.

Suck it up, flip more burgers and get a SC at least.
 
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