Forced Induction Discussion of turbos , superchargers , and nitrous upgrades on the G35

Going TT soon, keep HFC's or go with TP?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Mar 28, 2008 | 07:35 PM
  #1  
shdowflare's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
iTrader: (14)
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
From: Montgomery County, MD
Going TT soon, keep HFC's or go with TP?

Hey all,

I've had my FI HFC's for about 10K miles now and love em. But when I go JWT TT, I was wondering if it makes sense to keep em or go with test pipes instead? My biggest gripe about test pipes is the rasp/noise factor but I've heard turbo'd cars have less exhaust noise...so do I keep the FI HFC's or go with the TP's?

What are you guys doin'?

Thanks,
B
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2008 | 09:06 PM
  #2  
gte959s's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta
High flow cats are legal where test pipes are not. So that makes me say stick with HFC's! Performancewise most people say TP's.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2008 | 09:25 PM
  #3  
SDGeneralCounsel's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,081
Likes: 2
From: Gaithersburg
Originally Posted by gte959s
High flow cats are legal where test pipes are not. So that makes me say stick with HFC's! Performancewise most people say TP's.
what the hell are you talking about? Test Pipes are legal in 0 states in the U.S. HFC's are.

Stick with the HFC's until you blow one out. Then switch to test pipes. Not sure if you will need test pipes. Most can safely run HFC's.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2008 | 10:16 PM
  #4  
shdowflare's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
iTrader: (14)
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
From: Montgomery County, MD
Cool, guess I'll keep using the HFC's for now. If they ever blow out I could consider the TP's...

How's the noise with TP's and a twin-turbo setup?
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2008 | 10:45 PM
  #5  
jonnylaw's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,498
Likes: 1
From: Meifumado
Originally Posted by Lawy'dU
what the hell are you talking about? Test Pipes are legal in 0 states in the U.S. HFC's are.

Stick with the HFC's until you blow one out. Then switch to test pipes. Not sure if you will need test pipes. Most can safely run HFC's.
Removing/replacing functional OEM cat's pre 50,000 miles is against federal law, even if you replace then with HFC's--you should know that future counselor.

BTW, are you attending TJSL? I went there as a 1L and graduated from Chicago-Kent.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 02:05 PM
  #6  
Sylvan lake V35's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (37)
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,746
Likes: 312
From: Alberta
I run test pipes with a Stillen true dual exhaust on my 03 coupe with a JWT TT kit no rasp no drone its fairly quiet now (it was louder before the TT kit with OEM cats and Stillen exhaust).
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 04:18 PM
  #8  
shdowflare's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
iTrader: (14)
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
From: Montgomery County, MD
Originally Posted by Sylvan Lake V35
I run test pipes with a Stillen true dual exhaust on my 03 coupe with a JWT TT kit no rasp no drone its fairly quiet now (it was louder before the TT kit with OEM cats and Stillen exhaust).
Nice! I've got the Stillen true dual exhaust too. Looks like test pipes might be in my future after the JWT TT upgrade!

How much HP gain is it with the test pipes vs. HFC's?
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 04:56 PM
  #9  
gte959s's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta
Originally Posted by Lawy'dU
what the hell are you talking about? Test Pipes are legal in 0 states in the U.S. HFC's are.

Stick with the HFC's until you blow one out. Then switch to test pipes. Not sure if you will need test pipes. Most can safely run HFC's.
**** face reread my post a couple of times before you start calling me out. I said that HFC were legal and Test pipes are not.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 05:00 PM
  #10  
gte959s's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta
Originally Posted by jonnylaw
Removing/replacing functional OEM cat's pre 50,000 miles is against federal law, even if you replace then with HFC's--you should know that future counselor.

BTW, are you attending TJSL? I went there as a 1L and graduated from Chicago-Kent.
Is it 50,000 or 60,000?
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 07:46 PM
  #12  
shdowflare's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
iTrader: (14)
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
From: Montgomery County, MD
Originally Posted by HomieG35
50,000.

Unless you live in a strict state (and you know if you do or not).

They don't really check for cats. If you are worried... take your stock cats and gut them, that way they will look stock but the insides are nothing.
Nice idea...wonder if anyone else here's done this.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 08:40 PM
  #13  
XKR's Avatar
XKR
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 786
Likes: 8
From: Sugar Land TX/Boca Raton FL/Carefree AZ
First off...you have to figure out what whp you want to achieve before doing anything. If you are staying below 500whp....stay with the HFC...below 400whp..you can stay with the stock ones.

Above 500whp you are going to need test pipes to have the turbo's flow as free as possible.

I am running over 600whp with the JWT 700BB and I have the test pipes. No raspy sound here.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 10:33 PM
  #14  
gte959s's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta
Originally Posted by XKR
First off...you have to figure out what whp you want to achieve before doing anything. If you are staying below 500whp....stay with the HFC...below 400whp..you can stay with the stock ones.

Above 500whp you are going to need test pipes to have the turbo's flow as free as possible.

I am running over 600whp with the JWT 700BB and I have the test pipes. No raspy sound here.
How do you pass emissions? Do you switch out the test pipes for the emissions test?
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2008 | 11:17 PM
  #15  
shdowflare's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
iTrader: (14)
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,055
Likes: 0
From: Montgomery County, MD
Originally Posted by XKR
First off...you have to figure out what whp you want to achieve before doing anything. If you are staying below 500whp....stay with the HFC...below 400whp..you can stay with the stock ones.

Above 500whp you are going to need test pipes to have the turbo's flow as free as possible.

I am running over 600whp with the JWT 700BB and I have the test pipes. No raspy sound here.
Yeah originally I was planning to do the JWT 530BB set but someone said I should just get the 700BB and have it boost controlled so it's safe for my stock G engine. So the HFC's are probably good for now. If I do go with the 700BB kit, and want to push past 450rwhp I guess I'd need to build my engine. Either way it sounds like I can keep the HFC until I decide to build up my engine to take full advantage of the 700BB kit (like you!)....
 
Reply


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:31 PM.