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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 12:02 AM
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Well since you havent dealt with us before, you wouldnt know that we here at garageGT have never let a customer down yet. So I'm not your avarage shop telling you to go somewhere else, we do serious business. And let me decide what I can or want to afford. We are politely asking for an owner to see if anybody is interested. Would you take the deal if you hadnt gone 600whp yet? consider how much you spent and how much headache you had..maybe if you knew us.. So as I said before, forumworld is a different world, anybody interested is encouraged to come down to our shop and talk face to face. I already had emailed two guys for detailed pricing. We shall see what happens.

All kits out there are lacking some necessary components, most are made for high profit purposes, they do the job but I think we can do better.

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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Well since you havent dealt with us before, you wouldnt know that we here at garageGT have never let a customer down yet. So I'm not your avarage shop telling you to go somewhere else, we do serious business. And let me decide what I can or want to afford. We are politely asking for an owner to see if anybody is interested. Would you take the deal if you hadnt gone 600whp yet? consider how much you spent and how much headache you had..maybe if you knew us.. So as I said before, forumworld is a different world, anybody interested is encouraged to come down to our shop and talk face to face. I already had emailed two guys for detailed pricing. We shall see what happens.

All kits out there are lacking some necessary components, most are made for high profit purposes, they do the job but I think we can do better.

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I guess by my ststement you feel that I am assuming what you can afford...my bad...but you are also assuming that it was a headache for me going over 600whp....you are wrong. Almost one year ZERO issues..just gas mileage. I will be tuning the car to 650 whp this coming week.

Forged Performance is not your average shop either....you need to check out their work. Put it this way ..I have a '07 F430 and if I was going to put some turbo's on it...I would rather give it to them rather than the top end Ferrari shops... that's how good they are. I have been in this game a long time...from the early '90s. If it came with turbo's...I installed bigger ones....if it came NA...I put turbo's on. No car was too good to upgrade.

You are not the first shop to come on here and make the statement that "All kits out there are lacking some necessary components, most are made for high profit purposes, they do the job but I think we can do better.".....and you wont be the last...Bold statement for someone new to the platform....but the funny thing is..JWT, Greedy and APS is still kicking butttttt ! They have been tested and proven.


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Would you take the deal if you hadnt gone 600whp yet? consider how much you spent and how much headache you had
No, I would not take the deal UNLESS the kit was left on the car. If I am going to take the chance of losing my warrantee...I want something for it. You are saying that you are a "Top Notch" shop....but all the top shops like GTM and FP and a few others have already purchased a G37 and are on a waiting list for the GTR...so what you are doing does not make sense...only shops that don't have the funds would want to take the chance of pissing off a car owner by experimenting with a platform you are not familiar with. That's the reason for my assumption.

You need to also go to www.my350z.com and read about some of the shops over there...GTM, Forged, PF, MRC, VTR...just to name a few. Some of those guys listed are on par with some of the top Porsche and Ferrari shops.....trust me I KNOW !!!!

You need to check out a Forged built car( you can come and look at mine anytime) After I got it back from Forged ...I took it to the dealer for them to check it out, and they were in shock because of how clean and stock looking the work was "he has an eye for detail" is what the GM said about Sharif. They asked if I would allow them to put my car on the showroom floor for 2 weeks in exchange for free oil changes as long as I was the owner of the car. Yeah...I took the deal.

I wont bother you anymore with my ranting ....I wish you luck...the more shops the better.
 

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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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^^^ Very Well Said.....
 
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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You should have gone the right way for the 600WHP N/A to turbo conversion with ZERO issues. Since you havent answered about how much you spent, I will assume you had quite a bit of investment made. This is our main point of this arguement, glad you came by.

There are critical components for a N/A to turbo conversion, mainly getting rid of MAF and having a good fuel system. Anybody can throw on a turbo and intercooler. I will not critisize other tuners, manufaturers in specific, I will just build my kit and leave the decision to you guys.


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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Given your relatively unknown status, I'd suggest you guys sponsor someone...

I personally wouldn't give my car to a (relatively) unknown tuner to modify. The cars you guys have previously done are cars that are factory FI, and have proven track records. The way is already paved, and it's a relatively simple process; it is already known what the engine can and cannot do.

Take GTM's example; purchase your own car and do the R&D on it, or sponsor someone. Sponsoring someone is much cheaper than purchasing your own car. The VQ37VHR is a new engine, and you guys will make a name for yourselves if you make a reliable kit. You may not be the first on the market, but if you make the best kit with the most value, you WILL reap the rewards.

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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GarageGT
Since you havent answered about how much you spent, I will assume you had quite a bit of investment made. This is our main point of this arguement, glad you came by.
To be honest...I am not sure how much I paid for the engine build and turbo's only....Sharif built the car from ground up. The car was built to run a 1.7 mile road race track and be able to withstand 20 or so laps at over 14psi's without blowing up and to out run some of the guys in the Corvette and Porsche club.....the G took first...but was DQ'ed because of the HP. I had also planned to run it in the Silver State this year instead of running my 911 tt....because I felt it was stronger. But so far I have spent over 50K on the car for everything with out any problems. ZERO PROBLEMS.FP built the car so powerful that the stock Brembo's with race pads cannot even last 8 laps....so I now had to upgrade to a 12 piston system.

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Given your relatively unknown status, I'd suggest you guys sponsor someone...

I personally wouldn't give my car to a (relatively) unknown tuner to modify. The cars you guys have previously done are cars that are factory FI, and have proven track records. The way is already paved, and it's a relatively simple process; it is already known what the engine can and cannot do.

Take GTM's example; purchase your own car and do the R&D on it, or sponsor someone. Sponsoring someone is much cheaper than purchasing your own car. The VQ37VHR is a new engine, and you guys will make a name for yourselves if you make a reliable kit. You may not be the first on the market, but if you make the best kit with the most value, you WILL reap the rewards.

just my $.02
Good point Mike....all the cars he has worked on come from the factory FI'ed.
Damn good point. I don't think he is aware of what it will take to get this thing going. The expense is not in the turbo kit...its in the supporting mods. There is a guy over in the my350z section with a forged built car named Luie or Eagle running over 700whp on a daily driver trying his best to blow up the motor so that he can install another and has failed so far. He has even blown up the plenum.....but the motor is still strong.


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There are critical components for a N/A to turbo conversion, mainly getting rid of MAF and having a good fuel system. Anybody can throw on a turbo and intercooler. I will not critisize other tuners, manufaturers in specific
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You can go to this website and you will see the list of parts that Forged used to build my car.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/808731

BTW...rule #1 is ...never criticize a tuner...it can get painfull on these sites
 

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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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BTW...rule #1 is ...never criticize a tuner...it can get painfull on these sites
I'm not criticizing or pointing out anybody, We all have the right to discuss quality & performance.

I will build a kit and you will see how it looks and performs..and we can talk after. For now, I have my contact info on page1, anybody interested is welcomed to contact.


Tip for you: your car will handle better with 18" wheels



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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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Tip for you: your car will handle better with 18" wheels
Regards,Cenk
Because I dont drag race...I dont agree. This car has 2 set of wheels....19 and 20".

I have driven this car at over 150 mph on 18, 19 and 20" wheels. The 20" handled better.

I am not a noob on how to setup a car...I have had an IMSA and SCCA Pro racing license for a long time now.....This is why I am so "Car Crazy"

All the top speed cars that run at my track use 19 and 20".....mostly 20"..Ford GT, Lambo,some of the Vipers,and even a Koenigsegg CCGT which runs on 21".

But thanks for the info.


BTW.....I did not say you were criticizing anyone.....I just said that it gets painful when another shop does it....

And like I said before...the more shops the better for us. "Competition is a breading ground for lower prices."

So I wish you luck with your plans.
 

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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 04:40 AM
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No credit for all the work we want to do? Please be rational.
All it takes is $5000 down and $500 monthly payments and you own a g37.
Not willing to give away a turbo kit that you build and test on someones car?

But, in ten months you are willing to spend $10,000 on a G37. I can garuantee your cost on labor and parts for your turbo kit will not total more than $10k.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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You should prolly do the kit for free completely. Then when its done and its amazing people will come to you. Even if you gave it away for free youd still have more $$$ left over than buying one.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Ok now it's getting a little out of hand, I understand yes it would be much better if you can just get the kit for free, but if they dont want to they dont want to. They trying to create a tt kit here so they can make money off it in the future, everybody got to eat man, and everybody want to eat certain ways, if thats how they want to make their money, so be it, if you like how GTM, FP etc buys their own cars and test fits it themselves, fine go to them then. These guys are just trying to create a kit for us G drivers, make a good reliable kit with power I'm hoping, make a customer happy and make them happy when they make money, durrrr.....

Even tho I'm a loyal GTM customer

GL to you Cenk and the rest of the GarageGT crew on finding someone who will test fit it, if I had a G37 I probably might do it myself if i wasnt with gtm, im not worried about free or pay sh*t, unlike alot of you whiners, i have money eh
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GarageGT
You should have gone the right way for the 600WHP N/A to turbo conversion with ZERO issues. Since you havent answered about how much you spent, I will assume you had quite a bit of investment made. This is our main point of this arguement, glad you came by.

There are critical components for a N/A to turbo conversion, mainly getting rid of MAF and having a good fuel system. Anybody can throw on a turbo and intercooler. I will not critisize other tuners, manufaturers in specific, I will just build my kit and leave the decision to you guys.


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He had his work done at forged, which means he bought tons of unnecessary crap and he overspent.

OP hope this goes well for you. Beware of the forged and gtm people...
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Are you guys trying to create a purely bolt-on solution? Plug and play? or will tuning be required?
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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I'd do it if I had a G37, 5k TT kit is a steal.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:20 PM
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He had his work done at forged, which means he bought tons of unnecessary crap and he overspent.

OP hope this goes well for you. Beware of the forged and gtm people...
Well if I have to "overspend" and buy "unnecessary crap" to get this kind of reliability and whp....well I feel its money well spent.

BTW...anytime you want to match up your car with the "Works Bell Paddle Shifter Kit" against mine...just sent me a PM. I will be glad to show you how over spent my car is.
 

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