Procharger vs. Vortech: Powerband and Peak Power Comparison.
#46
I actually prefer the linear power curve. I won't be tracking my car or anything. I wanted a more fun drive to work in the mornings and something to show off at car shows this summer. If I wanted gobs of torque and power and that neck snapping acceleration I'd definitely go that route. But I'm not looking for that out of this car
#48
its got 16 blades and a RPM ceiling of 60,000 compared to the 55,000 of the T trim impeller. So when the T trim is spinning at maximum RPM you still have 5,00RPM left on the 928 impeller. If I'm not mistaken that equates to more CFMs of air, more boost and more power... and all for a fraction of the cost
#49
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its got 16 blades and a RPM ceiling of 60,000 compared to the 55,000 of the T trim impeller. So when the T trim is spinning at maximum RPM you still have 5,00RPM left on the 928 impeller. If I'm not mistaken that equates to more CFMs of air, more boost and more power... and all for a fraction of the cost
#50
its got 16 blades and a RPM ceiling of 60,000 compared to the 55,000 of the T trim impeller. So when the T trim is spinning at maximum RPM you still have 5,00RPM left on the 928 impeller. If I'm not mistaken that equates to more CFMs of air, more boost and more power... and all for a fraction of the cost
Also this is what I found on the 928 motorsport website, "Now your S-Trim Vortech can produce almost the same 1200 CFM as a T-Trim below 50,000 rpm (impeller speed) and more if you spool it up to 60,000!"
So I don't think the 928 blade is better than the T trim bc it states ALMOST the same.
I believe the 928 will only fit the sc blower bc their inlets are 3.5 BUT the T trim has a 3.75 inlet.
Last edited by Mr_pharmD; 04-09-2009 at 01:58 AM.
#51
#52
again, all looks good on paper, but the housing of the SC trim is smaller than a T trim. That could just equate to 5000 more rpms of heated air with no density.
I dont know where 928m is getting their "data" as is sure hasnt been posted anywhere. Once you get a few boost logs, you can easily see how different pulley's will shift that curve.
It will be nice to see you run 6700 rpms with your setup though. better than a T-trim? well if you top 500 hp, then ya. but we'll have to see.
I dont know where 928m is getting their "data" as is sure hasnt been posted anywhere. Once you get a few boost logs, you can easily see how different pulley's will shift that curve.
It will be nice to see you run 6700 rpms with your setup though. better than a T-trim? well if you top 500 hp, then ya. but we'll have to see.
its got 16 blades and a RPM ceiling of 60,000 compared to the 55,000 of the T trim impeller. So when the T trim is spinning at maximum RPM you still have 5,00RPM left on the 928 impeller. If I'm not mistaken that equates to more CFMs of air, more boost and more power... and all for a fraction of the cost
Last edited by str8dum1; 04-09-2009 at 06:03 AM.
#53
At what rpm will u have to go up to to spin the blower to 60,000 rpm?
Also this is what I found on the 928 motorsport website, "Now your S-Trim Vortech can produce almost the same 1200 CFM as a T-Trim below 50,000 rpm (impeller speed) and more if you spool it up to 60,000!"
So I don't think the 928 blade is better than the T trim bc it states ALMOST the same.
I believe the 928 will only fit the sc blower bc their inlets are 3.5 BUT the T trim has a 3.75 inlet.
Also this is what I found on the 928 motorsport website, "Now your S-Trim Vortech can produce almost the same 1200 CFM as a T-Trim below 50,000 rpm (impeller speed) and more if you spool it up to 60,000!"
So I don't think the 928 blade is better than the T trim bc it states ALMOST the same.
I believe the 928 will only fit the sc blower bc their inlets are 3.5 BUT the T trim has a 3.75 inlet.
key phrase: "Now your S-Trim Vortech can produce almost the same 1200 CFM as a T-Trim below 50,000 rpm (impeller speed)".
I don't think I'd be at a point where I'd need to be spooling up to 60,000rpm, but its nice to know it will if I so desired.
The purpose in me getting the impeller was to be able to get more air down low in the RPM range and in conjunction with the 2.62 pulley would get it to spool up a little faster than it would with the 3.12 pulley my kit came with. I'm thinking this would bring the boost on a little quicker than it would if I left the kit stock... The overall design of the impeller seems more efficient than the stock impeller setup expecially with the blades reaching all the way to the end of the plate instead of stopping short like the stock impeller does.
I guess the only way to know if it was a worthy buy is to put it on and run it on the dyno and see what she puts down right?
#54
#55
ya too much speculation. I know with my setup and how my impeller speed is related to boost/hp, its not worth losing the top end rpms for .5 psi under 4000 rpms.
at 60000 rpms, that would be ~6700 rpms ( about 600 rpms less than your current redline) with a 2.62/34/30 setup, so more likely than not, you will be spinning to 60k+ rpms. you'd only be able to spin ~6100 without that 928m, so thats a pretty big window you hopefully can add.
it would be awesome to see if that would really be about 18psi if the belts didnt slip.
at 60000 rpms, that would be ~6700 rpms ( about 600 rpms less than your current redline) with a 2.62/34/30 setup, so more likely than not, you will be spinning to 60k+ rpms. you'd only be able to spin ~6100 without that 928m, so thats a pretty big window you hopefully can add.
it would be awesome to see if that would really be about 18psi if the belts didnt slip.
#56
I never disagreed with u that it wouldnt be better than the stock blower... but u stated earlier that it's also BETTER than the T trim which it's not.
Like str8um1 mentioned, the housing is smaller than the T trim so might just be producing more dense heat at that speed.
Like str8um1 mentioned, the housing is smaller than the T trim so might just be producing more dense heat at that speed.
I haven't been able to find one other person on the forum that is running this impeller so I had no other data to go off of except whats on the 928 motorsports page.
I figured if I could get T trim performance without the T trim price tag then why not give it a shot
I'll post the results here or in my vortech build thread
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#57
#58
ya too much speculation. I know with my setup and how my impeller speed is related to boost/hp, its not worth losing the top end rpms for .5 psi under 4000 rpms.
at 60000 rpms, that would be ~6700 rpms ( about 600 rpms less than your current redline) with a 2.62/34/30 setup, so more likely than not, you will be spinning to 60k+ rpms. you'd only be able to spin ~6100 without that 928m, so thats a pretty big window you hopefully can add.
it would be awesome to see if that would really be about 18psi if the belts didnt slip.
at 60000 rpms, that would be ~6700 rpms ( about 600 rpms less than your current redline) with a 2.62/34/30 setup, so more likely than not, you will be spinning to 60k+ rpms. you'd only be able to spin ~6100 without that 928m, so thats a pretty big window you hopefully can add.
it would be awesome to see if that would really be about 18psi if the belts didnt slip.
I'm loving this back and forth information session though, its clean, nobody is getting mad and I'm finding it beneficial. Thanks alot guys I appreciate it.
I've seen threads like this go terribly wrong with opinions getting voiced and I'm glad this thread hasn't gone in that direction
#59
I looked on the vortech site and the T trim is listed with a pretty hefty price tag
the boost valve wouldn't be required if I was going to use all the power the kit will be producing. Unfortunately I have to wait until next year for the stroker motor build so for now I have to put a leash on the vortech
the RFL BOV was just me wanting to be different and have a BOV thats loud as hell compared to the jet engine sound of the vortech bypass valve
#60
I actually prefer the linear power curve. I won't be tracking my car or anything. I wanted a more fun drive to work in the mornings and something to show off at car shows this summer. If I wanted gobs of torque and power and that neck snapping acceleration I'd definitely go that route. But I'm not looking for that out of this car