Wow gents haven't been here in a while. Yes the 05 flash is being a pain. Once Technosquare has a workable flash Turbonetics will have on too. But they dont want to half @ss anything and would much rather have a good working flash out there. One possiblilty for you guys is running a piggy back...For the price of this kit as it is you could pick up an Emanage for another $300 and still be under the cost of most other kits. That should make it work for the 05 cars. The release date is Nov1 for this kit. The part number is out there and you can order from any of the vendors who carry this as a pre-order. This will get you on the list for the first batch. Typically first run batchs are done at 25 kits. MSRP for this kit is only $400 more then for the Z kit so basically take Z kit pricing add $300-400 depending on the vendor and you have the G kit price.