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BMW 335xi

Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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BMW 335xi

Do you think this will be even faster or have better handling than the RWD version?
 
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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yes.

all i see is the wheels spinning on the 335i... the AWD version should eliminate that. increased 0-60 decreased 1/4 mile. improved handling.

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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i dont remember but wasnt the 330xi slower compared to the 330i? Loss of power to the AWD
 
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Potty_Pants
yes.

all i see is the wheels spinning on the 335i... the AWD version should eliminate that. increased 0-60 decreased 1/4 mile. improved handling.

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Not exactly...

AWD are usually significantly heavier than their RWD counterparts.

It might perform better under low-traction conditions, but I dont see it outperfoming the 335i Coupe in ideal conditions (dry).

Probably improved handling, but not faster.

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 06BLACKMT
i dont remember but wasnt the 330xi slower compared to the 330i? Loss of power to the AWD
I wasn't aware of any 330xi that was faster than an 330i in acceleration performance stock for stock. Drive train power loss was probably a good part of that. I highly assume the same given the 335xi and 335i.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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almost all of the videos on the 335i show the wheels smoking during straight and cornering. this wheel loss can be elimiated by AWD.

Yes i do agree AWD does add weight and reduced performance but 0-60 you'll find an improvement over the 335i

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Potty_Pants
almost all of the videos on the 335i show the wheels smoking during straight and cornering. this wheel loss can be elimiated by AWD.

Yes i do agree AWD does add weight and reduced performance but 0-60 you'll find an improvement over the 335i

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True, I agree.

But 0-60 couldnt matter anyless.

I never understood why people cared so much about "0-60"... unless the [Drag] Race ended at 60, which hardly ever happens. Too many things to factor in 0-60 times such as the driver, traction [wheels], etc.

1/4 miles and 20-60 and 40-120 are much more indicative of the actual performance of the car.

I understand your point though; AWD launches are a blast. But depending on much more weight is added, won't matter much.

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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for me its mostly 0-60, but for the majority is 1/4 mile and passing speeds as you mention.

not to discuss this point anymore... and to drift slightly off topic.

my 05 G auto is breaking loose in the winter (summer tires) . obviously. but this occurance has made me understand the value of allseason tires & AWD.

I'd like to believe my next car will have allseason or AWD. And yes I dont mind adding 200 lbs to a new G coupe to give me AWD . After 300hp traction and cornering is all im concerned with. hell if my tires breakloose now i can only imagine how a 335i would do... UGH = need to have all traction/slip/etc on to drive the beast.


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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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I'd like to believe my next car will have allseason or AWD.
I really hope you get at least all-season tires cause AWD with summer tires won't help you much in the winter. I'm just stating the facts.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Stock vs stock they'll probably pull almost identical times in the 0-60 and 1/4 mile; the x-drive system adds enough weight to offset any traction advantage. Non-stock the non AWD will likely smoke it. Wider better tires will more than make up for it on launch.

In any sort of autocross (not in the rain), the non AWD will have the advantage of a firmer suspension. The rear linkages are totally different, fwiw.
 
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