Is there any reason you say 03-04 rather than 05+?

And does "2nd gen" only apply to the new G35 sedans...since there is no longer a g35 coupe, and there is no g37 sedan?

 

The 07 350Z will be significantly faster than all models of Gs. Go the 350z.com and check out the drag times...you will see a 13.3 in the 107mph range while the best here could only hope for a 13.8 at ~103mph range. Also, the Nismo Z will run rings around any G and the S2000 pretty easily. Good luck with your search.

 

I think he means 03-04 coupes because they have brembo brakes available while the 05-07s don't. also 05-07 6MT coupes have a higher occurence of

oil consumption than any other years. that's basically it. with the 05-07s though you get a highler redline.

 

almost any car is going to feel like an SUV after DD'ing a s2k.

In terms of track times, it really depends on the track; but the s2k will still be faster than most.

Think of the G35 as a 350z with a softer suspension and a few hundred pound weight penalty. (yeah yeah I know s2k guys think of Z's as fat pigs already)

 

I see. I am somewhat used to oil burning as the s2k likes to burn a little oil as well lol.

Does anyone know the reasoning behind raising the redline and what it is and what they raised it to? Or if theres any up or down sides to it? (besides thrills of higher revs)

And unfortunately I would be unable to afford a nismo Z or 07+ G of any kind. I am not really looking to get a 350z simply because I want more of a grandtouring type car than my s2k..

Whats the reason 350zs have been mentioned to be better for the track? the slight weight increase or is there a different frame? less rigidity in the G35 due to back seats instead of that giant brace?

 

this is true, but some also say that about the R35, and that holds its weight rather well. So to me, it doesnt matter if the car can handle its weight well.

1/4 mile times arnt my concern... so weight is no biggie for me unless the car corners like a pig lol.

I know somebody with an 05 G35c but its an automatic with the cheapest tires you can imagine on the rear, so I really would like to take it through some of my favorite back roads to get a feeling but I feel the tires will not do it justice

 

the higher redline yielded 18 more hp from 280 to 298 (aka the rev-up motor).

Z's are mentioned to be better for the track because of less weight and a shorter wheelbase. the frame is the same FM platform for both.

 

Ah i see! i never realized they were shorter, this makes sense.

Is the motor exactly the same, just with a different ecu with a higher redline...or is that wishful thinking..

 

higher redline does not necessarily mean faster. DE engines (2003-2006) make their peak power at ~6200 rpm. 03-04 (non-revup) engine's stock rev limiter is set to 6600rpm while 05-07 (excluding the 07 sedan and 07 350z) is set to 7000rpm but still makes its peak power at 6200 rpm.

B.Money my reason for going with 03-04 is the reason that MIA BlazinVQ mentioned. Brembos which u never have to worry about going after market even if u track the car 7 days a week, and less chance of getting a motor that will consume lots of oil.

 

Seems like a good reason to me. are the brembos that come with the car really that good? would they work well with R-Comps?

 

Well, lines pads and high boiling brake fluid is a must with any system if u track the car, and as soon as u do those things u are good to go.

 

hey mike, ill shoot you a pm if you dont see this question asked here, but since you own both the s2k and g35 which in general have you found cheaper to insure? or cheaper in general with gas etc?

I know you have different year cars so it will be a little off and it depends on record, but just trying to get a rough estimate.

 

The G35 is cheaper to insure. By far too. A 2002 S2K was gonna cost me 160 a month to insure. A 2003 G35 145 a month.

 

sweet thats good to know.

Another question that I may be able to find on my own, BUT

What EXACTLY performance wise is the difference between the G35 and G37?

It seems as though the G37 is slightly quicker, but is it based on the same frame, with the same engine as 05+ years?

 

Nope - different platforms.

G35 = 3.5L VQ35DE (standard engine in '03-'06) or 3.5L VQ35HR ('07+ models of G35)
G37 = 3.7L VQ37VHR

A little wikipedia info on the VQ37VHR:
"The VQ37VHR is a 3.7 L (3696 cc) engine with a higher compression ratio (11.0:1) than the VQ35HR. It is rated at 333 PS (330 hp/246 kW) and 270 ft·lbf (366 Nm). Bore is 95.5 mm with 86 mm stroke. Although the engine only gains 2 ft·lbf (2.7 N·m) of torque at peak, the torque curve itself is improved and flattened all around by as much as 15%. Redline remains 7500 rpm. It marks the first use of Nissan's VVEL (Variable Valve Event and Lift) system on a production vehicle."