Rays make WUT?
All the marks that I'm referring to (other than the JW stamp) are on the inside of the spokes. And no, I don't scrub the backs of these wheels and they are just stockers for winter use. And no, it's not that easily cleaned off.
I don't have a stock G35 sedan pic handy but they aren't difficult to find
I don't have a stock G35 sedan pic handy but they aren't difficult to find
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All the marks that I'm referring to (other than the JW stamp) are on the inside of the spokes. And no, I don't scrub the backs of these wheels and they are just stockers for winter use. And no, it's not that easily cleaned off.
I don't have a stock G35 sedan pic handy but they aren't difficult to find
I don't have a stock G35 sedan pic handy but they aren't difficult to find
stock G sedan had several wheels... I just want to be sure I know which ones you are actually referring to...
I dont remember seeing the marking you mention - NDGS doesn't have the marks you mentioned... so its relevant to know what wheel you actually have.
Being able to READ the info is quite different than getting that same info to show in a picture (which was the context of the discussion)
As far as I know, there is only one 03 G sedan non sport 17" wheel that was available. The 6 spoke.
As far as I know, there is only one 03 G sedan non sport 17" wheel that was available. The 6 spoke.
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^^^ usually if I can see it, my camera can capture it... but whatever.
And if there is only one wheel I wonder why yours has different markings... sure wold be good to know that we are all talking about the same wheel.
And if there is only one wheel I wonder why yours has different markings... sure wold be good to know that we are all talking about the same wheel.
This is from Rays... JWL+R is their own standard, that is higher than the JWL standard. No word from my friend yet on this wheel argument 
JWL+R is a new alloy wheel intensity standard that RAYS has created internally which applies to all alloy wheels that will be fitted to automobiles.
Compared with the JWL standard, which is currently Japan’s intensity standard for aluminum wheels, JWL+R standard imposes alloy wheels endurance and weariness trials which are two times more severe than the JWL standard, and imposes shock trials with heavier weights.
In addition, RAYS drops a weight of one ton in a 90 degree angle against a wheel fitted with a tire, and then subject the wheel and tire combination to a drum endurance test which it must pass more than 80,000 times in its transformed state. We include original trials to help simulate potential hazardous road conditions and test our wheels for endurance and stability if these situations occur.
Increasingly powerful braking systems which are housed by larger wheels and lower profile tires provide many benefits to cars, however, there are negative factors such as the increase of unsprung weight and the increase of stress to the inner rims. In order to avoid the increase in weight of alloy wheels, and to ensure security and peace of mind in everyday driving, RAYS introduced JWL+R.
The items included in our performance trials are not limited only to the intensity standards, but also to synthetic quality standards such as rigidity analysis at the design stage and coating endurance. JWL+R aims to overcome all of the challenges to produce light alloy wheel.
JWL+R is a new alloy wheel intensity standard that RAYS has created internally which applies to all alloy wheels that will be fitted to automobiles.
Compared with the JWL standard, which is currently Japan’s intensity standard for aluminum wheels, JWL+R standard imposes alloy wheels endurance and weariness trials which are two times more severe than the JWL standard, and imposes shock trials with heavier weights.
In addition, RAYS drops a weight of one ton in a 90 degree angle against a wheel fitted with a tire, and then subject the wheel and tire combination to a drum endurance test which it must pass more than 80,000 times in its transformed state. We include original trials to help simulate potential hazardous road conditions and test our wheels for endurance and stability if these situations occur.
Increasingly powerful braking systems which are housed by larger wheels and lower profile tires provide many benefits to cars, however, there are negative factors such as the increase of unsprung weight and the increase of stress to the inner rims. In order to avoid the increase in weight of alloy wheels, and to ensure security and peace of mind in everyday driving, RAYS introduced JWL+R.
The items included in our performance trials are not limited only to the intensity standards, but also to synthetic quality standards such as rigidity analysis at the design stage and coating endurance. JWL+R aims to overcome all of the challenges to produce light alloy wheel.
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thanks for the info Zack - you always have great insight especially regarding Japanese market...
Do you know whether or not Japan allows/accepts other countries to produce wheels in compliance with their standards and use the JWL mark?...
I know they have close relations with Thailand and many Japanese companies have moved there - since Jeff's wheel has a JWL and apparently Thailand stamp it seems that Japan does allow this... just curious for confirmation.
*Edit - the post about Zack has a link that clarifies other countries' use of the symbol ~
Do you know whether or not Japan allows/accepts other countries to produce wheels in compliance with their standards and use the JWL mark?...
I know they have close relations with Thailand and many Japanese companies have moved there - since Jeff's wheel has a JWL and apparently Thailand stamp it seems that Japan does allow this... just curious for confirmation.
*Edit - the post about Zack has a link that clarifies other countries' use of the symbol ~
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