Well said

 

It would be great if Nissan would put a V8 in a G but it would be far better if they'd reduce the weight a couple hundered pounds. Look at the GT-R with all that HP, it's a fat azz. Even the American cars have become over weight! What does a Hemi do for you if it's in a 4,200 lb car, that's what a bus should weigh....
Gary

 

It would be a beast with a V8,even supercharged..

 

I think it would be a price point issue more than anything. I know, I know the G convertible is $50,000, but that addresses a very specific niche which already has established demand and competition.

In my opinion, the G platform isn't high-end enough to demand the pricetag that would come with the V8 beast. Infiniti would sell very few of them, and they would likely take a loss due increased marketing and manufacturing demands associated with the new car...

 

I think the $70K mark for a V8 G needs to be re-evaluated. An M37 is $47K base, the M56 is $58K. If the G7 base price is around $36K, a V8 G series puts it under $50K base price. I think a 400+ HP G series for $50K is reasonable, and would do quite well. Besides, the new M's are not that attractive. I much prefer the previous M body style or either G35/37 body to the new M37/56.

 

I think you're on the right track, but your calculations are off a bit. A base G is 37k, an S will run you 43k, an IPL is 49k. Once you take into account that you won't be able to get a stripped down version of a G with a V8 in it, figure it will have all the options of an IPL included in the price (Body and interior). Now figure in the price of developing a reliable power train to support the power (sturdier transmission, stronger rear end, stronger axles). Figure out the revised suspension tuning required to deal with the extra weight and the extra power, and the additional cost of sticking even bigger brakes than the current 14" Akebonos (thicker diameter springs, revised shocks, larger brakes). With bigger brakes, include bigger wheels (probably 20" compared to Sport 19s). Then you take into account getting the new drive train certified for import into the US, and then you will see why the price of a V8 G would be north of 60k. You get a base Vette for 50k. Infiniti would not sell a luxury sport coupe to compete with a Corvette, since it will lose in every performance category. If they made a V8 G, they would aim for M, AMG, and F series cars. Infiniti enthusiasts would buy the V8 G, but your John Q. Public would see the Infiniti badge, ///M badge, AMG badge, see that they have similar performance numbers, see they are priced about the same, and then go with one of the better established brands. The best thing Nissan could do for the Infinti brand is start from the top. Make a limited edition super car based on the GT-R and give it a tad bit more ooomph to out perform it. Once that is out and makes waves like the GT-R did, start making cars under that moniker (like Lexus F division) and go from there. This is all talking out of my ***, I've never taken a marketing or business strategies class in my life. I'm not a numbers man, I just punch people for a living, but to me that makes sense. I don't even know why the GT-R was even released under the Nissan name brand. It's not like Nissan needed help in sales. They could have done a lot more to put Infiniti on the map in the upper class of luxury cars.

 

Because there isn't a big market for a 400+ horsepower G and you can't just plop in a big V8 and call it a day. It completely screws the balance so i bet from an engineering standpoint, It's probably not worth it yet. The next G will probably be on a Mercedes Chassis so they'll probably plop a v8 in there then.

 

At this time Infiniti will only be using Mercedes engines and at the present time a four cylinder. I do not see a day where an Infiniti will be built on a Mercedes chassis.

 

I said before in another thread that the answer is GT-R drivetrain and suspension in a G coupe type body. Yes, it would be a $90k car and no, most of us would not be able to afford it. It would not be made or sold in high numbers. It might even be a loss leader. But, it would attract a LOT of attention for Infiniti because its performance would be in the class of the AMG's, high end 911's and even Ferrari's.

 

Because no one would buy it.

 

On one would buy what?

 

agreed. there is alot that goes into putting a new, heavier and bigger engine into a car. Its not just a plug n play idea. the weight distribution is already 54/46 and it would get worse with a v8. someone also mentioned upgrading breaks and trans... very true. there is just too much R&D to go into it right now. although i do agree infiniti needs a v8 coupe to compete with the ///M and the AMGs alike. To anyone who says the styling wouldnt compete I think your nutz, i hate the interior of BMWs, Merc... yeah they are nice but youd miss the manual option. I also think our cars have a nicer exhaust note. Now someone said something about starting at the top? and working the way down with a limited ed. GTR???? The lexus IS-F came before the LFA... they are doing fine. ANd GTRs are and have been stomping supercars that are 4, 5, and 6 times more expensive... they did it right the first time. I think down the road infiniti will come out with a bad *** V8 G but right now it just doesnt make sense fiscally.
also for the v8 titan swap... yes its awesome, but you have to cut into the firewall to make it fit. it gets heavier and more front heavy. and idk how gas mileage will be affected, i think it would b similar. Whoever said they have a titan, its more than 1000 pounds heavier, that affects mileage more then 2 more cylinders. just sayin

but over all v8 G =

 

I don't even see a need for a V8 in light of the V6 in the GT-R. There really is no point to the extra HP (above the V6 in the GT-R) that you could get in a V8. And there IS point in which a car has too much HP. They become useless because they are hard to drive at normal speeds and at high speeds they become unstable and even traction and stability controls can't keep the rear end planted without effectively lowering the HP. It can make a lot of noise and ruin a lot of tires, but useless for track or drag racing. (I honestly don't think a lot of folks on this site
understand that too much HP can ruin a car for anything but dyno bragging rights.)

My point is, the V6 in the GT-R plus the drivetrain of the GT-R = high HP that is exquisitely well controlled (all wheel drive playing a big part). There are only a handful of
street cars
onthe planet that perform significantly better than the GT-R.

However, that engine may be too exotic and to hard to produce to make enough to meet whatever demand there might be for a true high performance G.

If Merc makes a very small displacement, very light, high revving V8 then that might be an option....but as far as I know that isn't Merc's cup of tea.

 

idk if i got something wrong or if someone just misspoke but i didnt think anyone was walking about putting a v8 in a GTR... that would just be stupid the GTR is already perfect. I think it would just be cool for a the G series to have a higher end, swift, plush, bruiser of a representitive of the line like the M3 does for the 328 and 335, like the RS4 does for the A4 and the IS-F does for the Is-250 etc. The G has the IPL which i think most can agree is a dissapointment.
also totally agree with the too much HP thing. it means nothing if you cant put the power down. Just look at mustangs haha look up 0-60 times of the 700+hp supersnake to the regular 420hp GT (its kinda sad actually). It would just be cool to see a 425hp G out of the box doing 0-60s in like 4.4 and running a sub 13 qtr mile.

 

My opening sentence was not very clear, I meant to say that since the V6 in the GT-R exists and would be great in a G-type car, there is no need for a big heavy V8 in a G. Sorry about the confusion.