What I've been waiting for from Infiniti.

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/01/inf...eau-rouge.html

Discuss..........

 

This would be an amazing flagship car for Infiniti. But I see two huge problems.
First 500hp and 600lb/ft of torque claim is pure BS. There is no way Inifniti will put out a VQ that makes more power than their VR.
Second is price. Already a fully loaded Q50S comes in at 55k. The M3 sedan is only 62k with 431 HP / 406 TQ with a much better tranny than Q50. The only way a Q50 can compete with a M3 is to be cheaper. Infiniti will have to sell this beast for around 60k to have a chance.

 

At those hp/torque numbers, unless it's a diesel/FI, hard to get more torque then hp.

I think it will be a NA + hybrid powertrain.

 

It makes more sense for Nissan to just let the VR trickle down to future cars like they did the VQ.

 

Not really. The VR costs 4 times as much as the VQ to produce. A VR in the Q50 would put it in the 80k-90k range. Plus a VR in anything except the flagship GT-R would take shine away from their crown achievement. That would be like Chevy putting a LS9 in the Malibu.

 

So a 500hp na Q50 4-door won't take any shine away from the GT-R?

 

NA? Not possible. Turbo VQ? Not at all. If it is an Infiniti, it will be very heavy and have horrible suspension. Even if it does have similar hp numbers as the GT-R, it will not be able to compete with it in any way. There are plenty of G35s with gobs more hp than a GT-R, but still cannot hold a candle to it.

I still hope they actually build it. About time they do something with that pathetic IPL series.

 

Wheels look like the ones on the 2015 Nissan Sentra Nismo concept.

And looks like they added Chargespeed style side skirts

 

^ true life. My dealership loves to talk about my car and the formula red bull series when we meet. Can only hope IPL has a future of greater then the revadge (spelling intended).

 

^^ Great looking sedan. I like the small red accents and the 370z Akebonos.

 

You would have said the same thing about the LS7 back in 06, now you can get it in a Z28. GM puts the LSA which is basically an LS9 with a smaller supercharger in the CTS and Camaro. They are also putting a naturally asperated version of the LS9 in the new SS. Nissan would be smart to do the same thing, building more VR motors would lead to lower production costs, especially if the lower tune models were built on an assembly line instead of by hand.

 

The front end looks very Lexus-ish to me. Or whatever Lexus copied if they copied anything. I lost track of who is copying who nowadays.

 

A 500HP N/A V6 with 600 ft-lbs or torque?

Seems a bit optimistic no?

Hard enough to get those numbers of a production V8 Engine these days...let alone a V6

 

That is only because now Chevy put a new much more powerful LT4 in the Z06. The LS9 is no longer the top engine, so it gets handed down the line rather than phased out. The new Z06 is even faster than the current ZR1. Never will a company offer their most powerful engine in anything other than their flagship car. I highly doubt Nissan is going to phase out the VR38 any time soon. Each year they just slap on a bigger turbo and retune.

More VRs wouldnt lower production costs since they are hand built by only specially trained employees (less than 20 total). To automate would be very expensive and lower quality, hurting their pride and joy GT-R. Much easier to just slap a turbo on already much cheaper mass produced VQ.

 

I wonder where people are coming up with the NA comments..