More bad news - need advice/opinions
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More bad news - need advice/opinions
Might be long but PLEASE read. I need advice.
Some of you may remember my previous post where I discovered that my "brand new" g35 coupe had apparently had some kind of work done to it before I bought it on the back passenger side quarter panel. I took it to get detailed and the detailer noticed it had been resprayed, sanded, etc., and poorly at that and who knows what else, i.e. possible body work, etc.
Infinti looked into it and came back with nothing. No record of any work having been done but yet they agreed that something had in fact been done to it. But there I was, no record, no explaination just good ol' mystery body work to my brand new 6MT coupe.
I left it alone and figured I'd live with it which goes against ever fiber in me but i WANT to be happy with my car so I put it out of my mind.
Today I had a body guy come out to look at the car to see if he could smooth out the back quater panel, minor, minor ripples but I notice them, and without having said a word to him about anything he states that it looks like the car has had body work done to it. I asked him what makes him think that, wanting to get his unbiased opinion since he knew nothing of what I already knew. He showed me the same tell tale signs as the detailer plus one more...
THE PAINT IS DISCOLORED. He said he noticed it right away. And I can see it plain as day. The entire rear quarter is slightly yellow compared to the rest of the car.
I took it immediately back to Infiniti and showed the service manager, same guy I talked to before about this issue. He seemed to agree that there was discoloration as well. He also agreed with me before that there definitely was some sort of work done to the car the first time I talked to him. Rememeber he pulled out his Mil guage and found the same results, about twice as thick on the rear passenger quarter panel.
What was I left with today? I was told to call Infiniti Consumer Affairs and open a case with them. I did this as soon as I got back to my office and was told they would get back to me by Wed. 05.07.08.
This car was purchased brand new and now I am concerned that the value has diminished significantly because of this, EVEN IF Sewell offers to repaint the car or whatever they may offer.
What should I do as far as pursuing this. Is this just life, is this a disaster, am I out of luck? How far do I need to push this? Get an attorney lined up, demand a NEW car, make them buy mine back from me.
Thanks for reading, need your help and insight.
Some of you may remember my previous post where I discovered that my "brand new" g35 coupe had apparently had some kind of work done to it before I bought it on the back passenger side quarter panel. I took it to get detailed and the detailer noticed it had been resprayed, sanded, etc., and poorly at that and who knows what else, i.e. possible body work, etc.
Infinti looked into it and came back with nothing. No record of any work having been done but yet they agreed that something had in fact been done to it. But there I was, no record, no explaination just good ol' mystery body work to my brand new 6MT coupe.
I left it alone and figured I'd live with it which goes against ever fiber in me but i WANT to be happy with my car so I put it out of my mind.
Today I had a body guy come out to look at the car to see if he could smooth out the back quater panel, minor, minor ripples but I notice them, and without having said a word to him about anything he states that it looks like the car has had body work done to it. I asked him what makes him think that, wanting to get his unbiased opinion since he knew nothing of what I already knew. He showed me the same tell tale signs as the detailer plus one more...
THE PAINT IS DISCOLORED. He said he noticed it right away. And I can see it plain as day. The entire rear quarter is slightly yellow compared to the rest of the car.
I took it immediately back to Infiniti and showed the service manager, same guy I talked to before about this issue. He seemed to agree that there was discoloration as well. He also agreed with me before that there definitely was some sort of work done to the car the first time I talked to him. Rememeber he pulled out his Mil guage and found the same results, about twice as thick on the rear passenger quarter panel.
What was I left with today? I was told to call Infiniti Consumer Affairs and open a case with them. I did this as soon as I got back to my office and was told they would get back to me by Wed. 05.07.08.
This car was purchased brand new and now I am concerned that the value has diminished significantly because of this, EVEN IF Sewell offers to repaint the car or whatever they may offer.
What should I do as far as pursuing this. Is this just life, is this a disaster, am I out of luck? How far do I need to push this? Get an attorney lined up, demand a NEW car, make them buy mine back from me.
Thanks for reading, need your help and insight.
Last edited by lekker_droom; 05-05-2008 at 11:34 PM.
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How long have you had the car? Judging from your mod list, it's been a while.
Were you given the opportunity to inspect the car before purchase?
I'd be after a new car, but I don't know how fortunate you'll be in that regard.
See what the front office comes back with and negotiate from there. Remember:
- Be professional and don't go ballistic
- Be firm but not inflexible
- Don't burn bridges
- Don't try to lay blame without proof
- Be patient - you'll get further with sugar than you will a baseball bat
Keep us updated.
Were you given the opportunity to inspect the car before purchase?
I'd be after a new car, but I don't know how fortunate you'll be in that regard.
See what the front office comes back with and negotiate from there. Remember:
- Be professional and don't go ballistic
- Be firm but not inflexible
- Don't burn bridges
- Don't try to lay blame without proof
- Be patient - you'll get further with sugar than you will a baseball bat
Keep us updated.
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no, my car is IP and the back quarter panel is slighly off color with yellowish tint, it's subtle but it's definitely there.
ANd no I didn't get a good deal, that would mean I would already have known there was something wrong with it. Again, I bought this car brand new with something like 10 miles on it.
ANd no I didn't get a good deal, that would mean I would already have known there was something wrong with it. Again, I bought this car brand new with something like 10 miles on it.
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Sounds like it may have had that panel damaged on delivery and the dealer did a cheap respray of the panel. A local Infiniti dealership here dented/scratched my rear bumper when my car was in for work and they had some sh*tty respray guy come in - they didn't even remove the bumper to spray. The clear coat didn't dry properly and now it's got orange peel. Most people wouldn't notice, but I'm a perfectionist and can't stand it
Good luck with whatever you decide! There must be some record of a respray somewhere - sounds like someone is hiding something.
Good luck with whatever you decide! There must be some record of a respray somewhere - sounds like someone is hiding something.
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As I understand it right now, Infiniti has traced the car back to it's arrival in the US from a prot in Los Angeles. No other dealer owned it, sold only to Sewell and delivered to Sewell. They say they have no documentation of anykind of any work being done to the car. But yet they agree that something has been done....sigh.
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Originally Posted by lekker_droom
As I understand it right now, Infiniti has traced the car back to it's arrival in the US from a prot in Los Angeles. No other dealer owned it, sold only to Sewell and delivered to Sewell. They say they have no documentation of anykind of any work being done to the car. But yet they agree that something has been done....sigh.
The cars entered the port, where they were inspected....If any damage was observed, it was noted and the cars then where sent to the VDC. There, the cars would undergo the prep for shipment to the dealerships.
This is where the cars where repaired and then sent off. They did not have to report this repair work to the dealership, nor the customer. It was all considered part of normal wear and tear from shipping.
So, Your car has definitely been repaired, but you just don't know where.
Some of the truck transport companies cause the damage as well. They may have repair places to repair the cars before they are brought along to the dealerships as well.......Way too many variables to figure out where it may have occurred.
Sorry, I know this doesn't give you an answer, but I was hoping to enlighten you a little bit from my experience in the industry.
Last edited by GR8TG35; 05-06-2008 at 10:31 AM.
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