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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 12:07 PM
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I used Amsoil 80W-90 GL-5 (as recommended by the owners manual) in the rear diff and Amsoil 75W-90 in the tranny. I feel good about having clean oil in both however shifting is very notchy now. Others have said the same thing. Next time I'll try OEM or Redline.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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I wont put anything else in my trans or differential but BG fluids.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 04OB6mt
How many quarts of tranny fluid are needed for just a drain and fill?
You'll probably only get out about 3.5 qts so buy 4.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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Thanks alot! Just didnt want to buy too many bottles lol. Just did my diff with rp and was a very easy job.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Max-Gear is an ultra-tough automotive gear oil. It’s designed to maximize power and provide unsurpassed protection to heavily loaded gears. It makes gears run smoother, quieter, cooler and longer without overhauls.

Max-Gear outperforms other gear oils because it combines the highest quality synthetic oils with Royal Purple’s proprietary Synslide additive technology.

Max-Gear is recommended for use in truck, motor home / RV, and automotive front or rear differentials, manual transmissions, and lower gear units of marine engines that specify use of an API GL-5 or GL-4 fluid. All viscosities of Max-Gear are formulated with hypoid friction modifiers necessary for use in clutch or cone type differentials. No additional additives are necessary.
This is right off Royal Purples web site... Does this mean Royal Purple will work with GL-4 AND GL-5???? I do not see a listing for the weights as a specific GL4 or GL5. So I am guessing it will work with both.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Gear oil is a motor oil made specifically for transmissions, transfer cases, and differentials in automobiles, trucks, and other machinery. It is of a higher viscosity to better protect the gears and usually is associated with a strong sulfur smell. The high viscosity ensures transfer of lubricant throughout the gear train. This is necessary since the devices needing this heavy oil do not have pumps for transferring the oil with only a portion of the lowermost gears bathed in an oil sump. This heavy oil can create viscous drag leading to inefficiencies in vehicle operation. Some modern automatic transaxles (integrated transmission and differential) do not use a heavy oil at all but lubricate with the lower viscosity hydraulic fluid, which is available at pressure within the automatic transmission.

Most lubricants for manual gearboxes and differentials are hypoid gear oils. These contain extreme pressure (EP) additives and antiwear additives to cope with the sliding action of hypoid bevel gears.

API ratings
Gear oils are classified by the American Petroleum Institute using GL ratings. For example, most modern gearboxes require a GL4 oil, and separate differentials (where fitted) require a GL5 oil. It is important that purchasers check the oil against the vehicle manufacturer's specification to ensure it does not contain any aggressive chemicals that may attack gear components, such as the phosphor bronze used in many Japanese boxes.

API viscosity ratings for gear oils are not directly comparable with those for motor oil, and they are thinner than the figures suggest. For example, many modern gearboxes use a 75W90 gear oil, which is actually of equivalent viscosity to a 10W40 motor oil. Multigrade gear oils are becoming more common; while gear oil does not reach the temperatures of motor oil, it does warm up appreciably as the car is driven, due mostly to shear friction (with a small amount of heat conduction through the bellhousing from the engine block).

Fully synthetic gear oils are also used in many vehicles, and have a greater resistance to shear breakdown than mineral oils. They can improve the shifting performance of "difficult" gearboxes, where the excessive slipperiness of some mineral oils can impede synchromesh action.[citation needed]

API classification subdivides all transmission oils into 6 classes:

API GL-1, oils for light conditions. They consist of base oils without additives. Sometimes they contain small amounts of antioxidizing additives, corrosion inhibitors, depresants and antifoam additives. API GL-1 oils are designed for spiral-bevel, worm gears and manual transmissions without synchronizers in trucks and farming machines.
API GL-2, oils for moderate conditions. They contain antiwear additives and are designed for worm gears. Recommended for proper lubrication of tractor and farming machine transmissions.
API GL-3, oils for moderate conditions. Contain up to 2.7% antiwear additives. Designed for lubricating bevel and other gears of truck transmissions. Not recommended for hypoid gears.
API GL-4, oils for various conditions - light to heavy. They contain up to 4.0% effective antiscuffing additives. Designed for bevel and hypoid gears which have small displacement of axes, the gearboxes of trucks, and axle units. Recommended for non-synchronized gearboxes of US trucks, tractors and buses and for main and other gears of all vehicles. These oils are basic for synchronized gearboxes, especially in Europe.
API GL-5, oils for severe conditions. They contain up to 6.5% effective antiscuffing additives. The general application of oils in this class are for hypoid gears having significant displacement of axes. They are recommended as universal oils to all other units of mechanical transmission (except gearboxes). Oils in this class, which have special approval of vehicle manufacturers, can be used in synchronized manual gearboxes only. API GL-5 oils can be used in limited slip differentials if they correspond to the requirements of specification MIL-L-2105D or ZF TE-ML-05. In this case the designation of class will be another, for example API GL-5+ or API GL-5 LS.
API GL-6, oils for very heavy conditions (high speeds of sliding and significant shock loadings). They contain up to 10% high performance antiscuffing additives. They are designed for hypoid gears with significant displacement of axes. Class API GL-6 is not applied any more as it is considered that class API GL-5 well enough meets the most severe requirements.
Says GL-5 is NOT for Gearboxes but ok in synchronized manual gearboxes. I guess GL-5 will not hurt a synchronizer????
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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Interesting Info....


Gear oil is a motor oil made specifically for transmissions, transfer cases, and differentials in automobiles, trucks, and other machinery. It is of a higher viscosity to better protect the gears and usually is associated with a strong sulfur smell. The high viscosity ensures transfer of lubricant throughout the gear train. This is necessary since the devices needing this heavy oil do not have pumps for transferring the oil with only a portion of the lowermost gears bathed in an oil sump. This heavy oil can create viscous drag leading to inefficiencies in vehicle operation. Some modern automatic transaxles (integrated transmission and differential) do not use a heavy oil at all but lubricate with the lower viscosity hydraulic fluid, which is available at pressure within the automatic transmission.

Most lubricants for manual gearboxes and differentials are hypoid gear oils. These contain extreme pressure (EP) additives and antiwear additives to cope with the sliding action of hypoid bevel gears.

API ratings
Gear oils are classified by the American Petroleum Institute using GL ratings. For example, most modern gearboxes require a GL4 oil, and separate differentials (where fitted) require a GL5 oil. It is important that purchasers check the oil against the vehicle manufacturer's specification to ensure it does not contain any aggressive chemicals that may attack gear components, such as the phosphor bronze used in many Japanese boxes.

API viscosity ratings for gear oils are not directly comparable with those for motor oil, and they are thinner than the figures suggest. For example, many modern gearboxes use a 75W90 gear oil, which is actually of equivalent viscosity to a 10W40 motor oil. Multigrade gear oils are becoming more common; while gear oil does not reach the temperatures of motor oil, it does warm up appreciably as the car is driven, due mostly to shear friction (with a small amount of heat conduction through the bellhousing from the engine block).

Fully synthetic gear oils are also used in many vehicles, and have a greater resistance to shear breakdown than mineral oils. They can improve the shifting performance of "difficult" gearboxes, where the excessive slipperiness of some mineral oils can impede synchromesh action.[citation needed]

API classification subdivides all transmission oils into 6 classes:

API GL-1, oils for light conditions. They consist of base oils without additives. Sometimes they contain small amounts of antioxidizing additives, corrosion inhibitors, depresants and antifoam additives. API GL-1 oils are designed for spiral-bevel, worm gears and manual transmissions without synchronizers in trucks and farming machines.
API GL-2, oils for moderate conditions. They contain antiwear additives and are designed for worm gears. Recommended for proper lubrication of tractor and farming machine transmissions.
API GL-3, oils for moderate conditions. Contain up to 2.7% antiwear additives. Designed for lubricating bevel and other gears of truck transmissions. Not recommended for hypoid gears.
API GL-4, oils for various conditions - light to heavy. They contain up to 4.0% effective antiscuffing additives. Designed for bevel and hypoid gears which have small displacement of axes, the gearboxes of trucks, and axle units. Recommended for non-synchronized gearboxes of US trucks, tractors and buses and for main and other gears of all vehicles. These oils are basic for synchronized gearboxes, especially in Europe.
API GL-5, oils for severe conditions. They contain up to 6.5% effective antiscuffing additives. The general application of oils in this class are for hypoid gears having significant displacement of axes. They are recommended as universal oils to all other units of mechanical transmission (except gearboxes). Oils in this class, which have special approval of vehicle manufacturers, can be used in synchronized manual gearboxes only. API GL-5 oils can be used in limited slip differentials if they correspond to the requirements of specification MIL-L-2105D or ZF TE-ML-05. In this case the designation of class will be another, for example API GL-5+ or API GL-5 LS.
API GL-6, oils for very heavy conditions (high speeds of sliding and significant shock loadings). They contain up to 10% high performance antiscuffing additives. They are designed for hypoid gears with significant displacement of axes. Class API GL-6 is not applied any more as it is considered that class API GL-5 well enough meets the most severe requirements.
Says GL-5 is NOT for Gearboxes but ok in synchronized manual gearboxes. I guess GL-5 will not hurt a synchronizer????
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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I used rp in my differential and on the bottle it indeed said that it is compatible with any machine that required gl-4 or gl-5.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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Royal Purple/Lucas Oil

I prefer Royal Purple and Lucas Oil products. In my differential I used Royal Purple's 75W-90 Max-Gear Gear Oil. In my transmission I used Royal Purple's 75W-90 Max-Gear Oil + Lucas Oil Transmission Fix. I was going to use Royal Purple's Synchromax Manual Transmission Oil but I couldn't figure out if it was GL-4 or GL-5 so I just went with the GL-5 Max-Gear. The differential and transmission oil on my 04 6MT had never been changed by the previous owner. I bought the car three months ago with 45,000 miles so I figured it was time to flush all the fluids.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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GL-4 is needed in the 6MT gearbox. GL-5 has additives that are not good for the syncros that have a high copper or brass content that can be damaged.

GL-5 is good for the diff only.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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So I just found this thread, whats the conclusion? LOL

About to change my diff and tranny fluid.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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4 bottles of GL-4 tranny fluid and 2 bottles of 75w90 in the diff if im not mistaken. I persinally run RP in my diff. Havent gotten around to the tranny yet.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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I didn't read the whole thread, but will offer this:

Service your tranny, diff every 30K and you will most likely have way more benefit than using "high performance/uber synthetic" anything.

Stick with OEM/equivalent fluids and you will be fine.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Well, the part about servicing your tranny and differential every 30K is right BUTT, lots of different people offer different insight into suing differnt fluids. Amsoil seems to be by far the preferred brand around here. That's what I used at 30K, and I'll do so at 70K.
Interesting thread, definitely worth reading.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2011 | 03:27 PM
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Since this thread has been revived I'll give my 2 cents.
Got a 6mt.
I just had my tran/diff fluid replaced @ 40k miles with oem
and the gear shifting was noticeably notchier, def not as smooth as before.
It took about 4 weeks before getting back to normal fluid shifting, for the G's tranny that is.
 
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