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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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thanks for backing me up guys! and to OP no problem..i don't flame anyone on here...we all started somewhere in the car world..KNOWING NOTHING...we gain knowledge on this stuff from each other...thats why G35DRIVER is here haha good luck!
This is all good....^....the question is did you receive the correct information? This question has been asked a gazillion times and has been answered 100X that amount. Had you started by using SEARCH you would have discovered there are several correct answers. The correct answer is to install the springs, drive your car for a week to let your springs settle then have your alignment done. Ask the tech when he's finished how far off OE specs your car is? Each of our G35s is different and they're not easy on tires with factory suspensions. Once you make modifications most of us need the complete camber kit so we don't eat thru tires in a short period of time. Quality tires are never cheap so investing in the camber kit is the smartest most logical way to go.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 08:47 PM
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^^not sure what this post has to do with quoting mine but thanks for the input gary c
 
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 09:26 PM
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You can get rein s techs from vendor on here for $178 or $187 shipped
 
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by gary c
This is all good....^....the question is did you receive the correct information? This question has been asked a gazillion times and has been answered 100X that amount. Had you started by using SEARCH you would have discovered there are several correct answers. The correct answer is to install the springs, drive your car for a week to let your springs settle then have your alignment done. Ask the tech when he's finished how far off OE specs your car is? Each of our G35s is different and they're not easy on tires with factory suspensions. Once you make modifications most of us need the complete camber kit so we don't eat thru tires in a short period of time. Quality tires are never cheap so investing in the camber kit is the smartest most logical way to go.
first of all, i did search, and all that came up was coilovers and other types of lowering your car discussion, I didnt find anything about camber kits being needed with a inch drop. Seriously i dont wanna hear it "search" just dont post in this thread if your gonna tell me to search. I asked a simple question and got my answers.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Id get a rear camber kit since they are pretty cheap compared to new tires but I don't think that you will need a front set.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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If you are on the S springs then you will need a front kit too. I went through this and tried not do any of them and it ended up costing me two sets of tires even with the toe in spec. The rears I am uncertain if you need adjustable radius arms with the SPC toe bolts. I am questioning this and believe even with all the arms I have done if the these aren't causing issues. They keep loosing up and would like to go back to a stock radius but not sure if the toe bolts will be enough to pull the toe back in. Remember when you change camber you also change toe and visa versa. Anyone that has done just the rear bolts and hit OEM spec please chime in. That is the one piece I don't know.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by katastrophiik
first of all, i did search, and all that came up was coilovers and other types of lowering your car discussion, I didnt find anything about camber kits being needed with a inch drop. Seriously i dont wanna hear it "search" just dont post in this thread if your gonna tell me to search. I asked a simple question and got my answers.



Gary had good advice and he's only trying to help you out.. It's also not a very simple question if you noticed the answers that you're getting. It'd be simple if they were all the same and you only got a few replies, but it's far from that. You didn't search right.... next time you make a search.. click on advanced.. type in what you are looking for.. then scroll down on the side bar to the section that it's supposed to belong it.. such as.. "Brakes and Suspension" I JUST did that and I found a couple results that would of helped you in your dilema.

On the side note.. people usually prefer just getting the camber kit when they get a drop. This is because chances that you'll be needing a front and rear camber kit to get your car back to OE spec is pretty high.. you'll only find that out after you put the springs or have had them put in and then after an alignment. Then if you find out that the specs aren't close enough.. you'll end up wasting time and money.. time on the install and/or money and money on the alignments.

There's a reason why i've had my springs sitting in the corner of my room for like over a month now. Rather get what I need earlier than waste more money afterwards..

and think about it this way.. if you can't afford to get a camber kit.. then don't even bother putting the springs on.. because what's going to happen when you put the springs on, wait a week and then get an alignment, but you later find out that your car isn't up to OE specs?.. you're going to have to waste even MORE time to take off the springs and it'll all be for a waste.. Either that or there're some people who choose to ignore it and decide to not do anything about it and leave it as is and then they wear out their tires in like a few months.

Your choice..
 

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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by prinny
I'd still get the camber kit if you plan on lowering your car an inch or more. At least the rear with the toe bolts.

Do a search and there's a bunch of threads about this. I've had some springs sitting in the corner of my room for around a month or so now. Saving up for that camber kit. Better to be safe than sorry because new tires aren't pocket change...

+1. I lowered mine with H-techs and did not need the toe bolts with the rear camber. I noticed as with many ppl with the same springs a front camber will help to get within spec but not a really big deal without. Tire wear is the big thing 125$ camber kit vs $250 a tire.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by katastrophiik
first of all, i did search, and all that came up was coilovers and other types of lowering your car discussion, I didnt find anything about camber kits being needed with a inch drop. Seriously i dont wanna hear it "search" just dont post in this thread if your gonna tell me to search. I asked a simple question and got my answers.
Noob, you really don't need to get your "Pantie's" in a wad, had you SEARCHED using the right topic you would have discovered there are more threads on this topic than you could read in a week. This is an issue on DRIVER if you don't ask the correct question doing a SEARCH you'll never find the correct answer. So you end up making a new thread on a very old subject "Lowering". And the answer is....Yes you'll need the camber kit unless you want to buy tires at least once a year! Your Welcome!
Gary
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by chatt350gt
nobody NEEDS a camber kit..its really up to you..if you want to get back into spec then chances are yes you will need one..if you dont mind getting less life out of your tires than no you dont..some people get away with an alignment and then again some guys end up needing a front camber kit more than rear...get the springs you want..install..ride around on them for a few weeks then go to an alignment shop and see how out of spec you are..then make decision. =] good luck!
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperCleanG
Tire wear is the big thing 125$ camber kit vs $250 a tire.
Closer to $350 front camber kit and $160 rear camber kit vs $160 per tire

But every situation is different.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 4D05G35
Closer to $350 front camber kit and $160 rear camber kit vs $160 per tire

But every situation is different.


This^ you're going to have to spend a good amount like $500 or so for a good camber kit becaues the cheaper ones like Godspeed or Ichiba don't give you enough positive or might not get your rear back into spec.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 07:57 PM
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Well i'll see i just bought new rims and tires. 285/30/20 +25 offset rear and 245/30/20 front ill see how she sits and ill go from there.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 08:26 PM
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i had a post about this a couple weeks ago. look it up
 
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Old Jun 29, 2011 | 11:18 PM
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Hey man. You have a few choices. They have all been said by everyone who has already posted here, but I like to simply sum things up in my own words....

From experience, I ran springs alone for a bit and definitely had to pay in the end for the tire wear it caused. Here are your options simply:

1. Just drop the car using springs on stock suspension arms. Your tires wear prematurely and you buy more. The wear will depend on the frequency and way you drive the car. Take those factors and weigh the cost of replacing tires constantly against doing the drop correctly and installing components to correct the negative angles your aftermarket springs cause.

2. Drop the car and install some aftermarket components so you aren't buying tires all the time. I would recommend if you go this route, you buy some quality components that will do what they are intended to do. By this I mean buy some arms that allow for a positive camber adjustment. It is a fact that there are many cheap arms on the market that do not allow for a positive camber adjustment, regardless of what some people will tell you. I will tell you for sure from experience that quality arms such as the ones SPC makes WILL allow you to adjust your alignment angles. This will allow you to get back to factory alignment specs and correct abnormal and premature tire wear. You will pay more for a good brand, but you wont be disappointed in it's performance. You will however be very disappointed if you try and save a few bucks when you by a cheap camber kit and end up exactly where you began...... wearing out tires caused by negative camber.

Make a decision. The end.

Bottom line, you are going to shell out the cash either way. You can look at it this way (approximately):

Option 1- Just drop it on springs...
4 tires @ $150-250 per tire = $600-$1000.

Option 2- Just do it right...
SPC camber kit front and rear @ $525 shipped from THMotorsports (a vendor here)=$525.

There are other costs associated that I didn't mention for time sake and case by case specifics, but you get the idea.

Here are some links regarding option 2:
https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-cou...mber-arms.html
https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-cou...m-install.html
https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-cou...t-install.html
https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-cou...amber-kit.html

In the end, it is all just personal preference, how much money you want to spend, and when you want to spend it. Just don't forget that one way or another, unless you keep that G's suspension bone stock you WILL spend it.

Oh yeah and GAME.....Blouses.
 

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