i got your 3 emails this morning op, all sent yesterday... i replied

so now you have a tracking number all of a sudden? since when did you get a tracking number? your receipt never showed a tracking number... your communication sucks...

instead of emailing me and messaging me back you went and started a thread about me? i only opened the dispute because you don't communicate... asked for tracking for 2 weeks, then i got a receipt, fine... i wait to week #3 and still nothing... you don't reply so i get your attention with the dispute... got it?

if they come late... you will get your money late... that's all...

 

Don't count your eggs until they hatch in the future. PayPal hasn't taken any money back from you yet... all they've done is place a hold on the funds in your account. You have no leg to stand on as far as paying bills, as PayPal doesn't take the money out of your account, even if they side with the buyer.

If he closes the case, there's a chance he won't be able to reopen it... and I for one wouldn't take that chance.

I can't disagree more with AmateurRN in this case. I wouldn't ask a buyer to split the loss with me if I sold something and it never showed up to them. He followed his end of the deal to a T. He sent you the money... that's all he had to do. You, as the seller, are responsible for insuring the package makes it there and the items are in good working condition. This means tracking the package, and in most cases putting insurance on the items as well.

You made this thread to try to put pressure on the dude, but obviously that's completely backfired. So keep saying "f the noise" and I'll keep telling g35sweetness to continue on his current path.

 

^^^ agreed.

OP, I think you started this thread to get sympathy and put pressure on the buyer but 90% of us think YOU are the one in the wrong. Doesn't that tell you something? I have sold your buyer cats too with no issues. I do know that I will never do business with you though.

 

thanks for that RN . i have done many cool transactions with people like you , i know you see it clearer than a lot of the others on this thread , why we cant have a marketplace free of problems/risks is beyond me

i agree that the beef should be held with usps , and i have tried to communicate with sweetness regardless of what he's saying , and maybe we could split if it never turned up . but yes this is a bought lesson , i wont be dealing through paypal any longer

never said that and i have been communicating with you , which is why none of this makes any sense .

f the noise , people have differing opinions , some people put more responsibility on the seller , some the buyer . and i didnt create this thread to put pressure on him , if i wanted to put pressure on him , he would know it , trust me . i created this thread to see if anyone had been in similar situations and gotten screwed . say whatever you like , it wont change anything

as i stated above , i created this to seek help and advice . and this guy you are defending emailed me and told me to close this thread . why would he do that if he knew nothing was wrong on his part ? he wont close the dispute when i ask nicely , but hes demanding that i close this thread ? think about that . the more level-headed and wise ones of this thread are thinking kind of the opposite of the majority, doesnt that tell YOU something ? the masses are asses and 90% of yous guys can believe whatever you want , but some of us out here on this forum wouldnt march in front of a swastika just because some guy said its the right way , and we actually understand that sometimes people fall victim to uncontrollable things, and that i ACTUALLY DID hold up my end of the bargain and shipped it promptly with receipt , and that it shouldnt be 100% of the sellers liability when a dispute arises just because i am wearing a sign that says seller and he's wearing a sign that says buyer , and you point the finger at me just because i am labeled seller that day . its just that usps is having some handling issues . idk about yall but when the majority is saying one thing , i tend to lean towards the minorities . the same way you say people should believe the other guy just beacuse he has other people rooting for him and other good biz transactions is the same as RN saying i should get a better end of the stick and that i have good reputation as well . its all the same . just perception and if you are easily swayed in the wrong direction or not . i have seen countless times where individuals on this forum were COMPLETELY legit about their business practices and did everything correctly , and some jack **** started a thread to call a guy a scammer . ruin his reputation because he didnt want to sell the guy a really nice part for really cheap or something . thats it. and then before you know it , just because one guy says "SCAMMER SCAMMER" , theres tons of replies from dudes that dont EVEN KNOW THE GUY OR WHAT HAPPENED , and still, people get that wolf-pack mentality and if one peron says it, the rest of the dummies believe it , and its all downhill from there . no matter what , the guy will be a "scammer" on this site , through and through . sorry but i see what its like on this forum , and often times it isnt fair , and i see what its like to be a victim of circumstance and impressionable people .
dont work yourself up jack , i wouldnt do business with you either

 

You came into this thread trashing g35sweetness and calling him a scammer. How do you expect us to believe you're NOT trying to pressure him into something? You're trying to ruin his good name because he took the steps he deemed necessary when no package showed and you couldn't provide tracking information to him. Perfectly logical.

I'm not a member of the "wolf pack," as you've deemed it. I just call things as I see them.

I've had over 64 transactions on this site with only one or two problems along the way. I'd say I'm pretty level headed.

It's funny to me that because I don't agree with what you think should happen, you label me an unwise individual that's not level-headed.

I also especially love the way you try to tug at our heart strings by saying you can't pay bills if he has an open dispute on you. Yes, your PayPal account is in the red right now as they've placed a temporary hold on your funds until the dispute is resolved. What I can guarantee you they HAVEN'T done (and I know this from experience) is take those funds back out of your bank account. Sorry you can't use your PayPal until you settle the negative balance on your account, but this is also in no way hurting you beyond that.

If you'd put tracking and insurance on the package this would've never been an issue. You didn't. Time to man up and face the consequences of trying to save a couple bucks on shipping.

 

OP, you have 39 posts and an iTrader rating of 2. That does not really qualify as good reputation, that's just not having a reputation. Those are 2 very different things. Not to get this off topic but I'm about the most level headed person I know and look at my signature, I obviously don't follow the crowd. Next time spend $2 on insurance and you'd be able to pay your bills right now.

If you order a $2000 computer from bestbuy.com and they ship it (you have a tracking number and everything) but for some reason you never get it, would you Be cool with bestbuy keeping your money and saying "hey, we shipped it, your loss." I doubt it and I know I wouldn't except that. This is no different. Just because you aren't a huge corporation doesn't make you any less responsible as a seller.

Lastly, your conviction that USPS is so awesome is almost comical. USPS operates in the red every year because less and less people are using them because they continue to raise their prices while at the same time they are less reliable and less efficient than UPS and FedEx.

Side note: if you can't pay your bills over this you probably shouldn't be modding your G.

 

Broke a$$ dude driving a G trying to scam people. Don't know who is telling the truth but Scammers are such low life's. Why would you try and take someone's hardworking money. Karma is a B!tch. you will always be in a hole for the rest of your life scamming people. Move up in life don't be a damn low life. It will get you no where. Anyways maybe the package is loss but what I'm saying is who ever is trying to scam someone your a scumbag. I hate scammers. Hope this problem gets resolve for you. Hope the scammer gets Unkabunka!!!

 

...so whats the tracking number say?

 

 

Pictures of receipt / tracking number or it didn't happen

 

As a seller, I always require signature confirmation on anything more than like $100 or so and always ALWAYS get delivery confirmation on everything so I can track it and prove it got delivered to some extent.

Now, what I do is offer the buyer the OPTION of buying insurance, and make it clear that if they do not want it (and don't want to pay the extra couple bucks it costs), then they are the ones that will have to "take the hit" if it gets lost - since at the point it's "theirs" once I ship it. For the more expensive stuff, I just include insurance as part of the transaction and always insure it.

I've sold about $10,000 in camera gear in the last year and haven't had an issue...

 

youre right , next time i will take the proper precautions , and i wasnt directly saying that to you , it was more to janitor .

if best buy sent something like that and i never received it , i would be alot more calm about it than sweety and you guys , because if they provided shipping info , i would take it up with the shipping company first .
and its funny how you say that , because all of this is a double edged sword , you cant disagree with "we shipped it your loss" and then immediately after say that they buyer should be protected by "i sent the money , your loss" . its all the same totality idea . every time that you say i am saying whatever i think is right , whatever you think is wrong , you are actually doing the same thing by saying "everybody else thinks this" , youre trying to impose the same thought process upon me that you say i am trying to put on you ! and you dont even know it . so many people in this forum point fingers without warrant and in essence are doing the EXACT same thing that they say they dont want the other guy doing .. its crazy ..

and on top of that how people try to flame about finances ... gotta be kidding me .
its called having your ducks in a row and knowing where your money went and knowing where its going - not being broke to where you cant mod your G. i just spend my money intelligently and when i see the money in my bank , i know where it went . so when i see negative 150 , i see things that my fam and myself need that that 150 would cover. thats all man . thats all i was saying . i was never saying the 150 was taken out of my account , and i wasnt going to be able to pay my rent , or some bs like that , i understand that they havent actually removed the funds yet and thats its still just pending , but you have to take it there ? okaayy.
i have a st supra , fully built n/a G track monster and a turbo 350z . built not bought .
watch who you call broke boy. kys slowly.

side note: if you cant spell a word like accept , maybe you shouldnt be mixed in with society .



yea ive learned from this , it definitely wont happen again . thanks for giving input and not cracking jokes

 

I'm glad your bginning to see from a different point of view..

 

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