Well here it is. Now I will wait for you to accuse me of photochopping it.

 

Yes, a simple question was posed, followed by -- essentially meaning that my "apparent ignorance" was boring you. Quite assumptive and arrogant if you ask me.

You're right, I dont work in the food industry, how does that discredit my statement? It is common knowledge that many products are sold at a 1% profit in the grocery industry. In fact many products are sold at a loss, for nothing more to get you in the store. They're called loss leaders! A small company called Wal-Mart does this...heard of them? All that said...I sincerely hope you do not work in the food industry. " "

 

holy hell your taxes are high there.... and $400 to transfer the license plates over? is that what that says? that's insane.

 

Sound of crow being eaten.

Now I'm done.

 

bwhahaha... couldn't defend your point very well huh? had to save face by making it look like I changed the subject... how comical, and yes you are done.

edit: just so you know, I never questioned what this guy was paying -- read the entire thread.

 

Those who argue against what someone paid are idiots. Yes its possible for 200 over invoice...you know why? Supply and demand..based on..

LOCATION!

In cities that it tends to snow or what not, this isn't a desireble car (or any RWD for that matter, because most people don't buy cars for each season of the year, they need well rounded vehicles)...so while demand is high in SoCal and nice warm Florida...it may not be else where. Just accept the fact that some people get better deals because of where they live. I bet in those cities most people don't even know what a G35 is...and if they do, the weather (and ultimately demand) still doesn't change.

People don't have a reason to lie about what they paid so shut your mouths. That scan certainly did.

 

I had to go all the way over to another forum to get this image but you desreve it ...

 

That's why I said they I don't think negotiating a deal is impossible. I even believe a few may have stolen the car at $500 over invoice, it just seems that people are making that out to be the norm.

 

Thank you! This exactly my point. We are not talking about honda civic's where there 5 on every block. I could believe invoice plus a few hundred on these cars, because they are like azz holes (everybody has one). So yes you can make money by selling volume on hondas, but infiniti does not sell g35's anywhere near the number that honda sells civics. And I agree with you that a few may have got the crazy low price they state here, but that is the exception and not the rule. Also, I live in Miami, FL. They are only 2 dealers in this area. I don't know about the area everyone elses lives in, but down here people got fuking money! The economy is very strong and that haggling **** to an extent does not fly here. Basically they will tell you not to let the door smack you on the azz on the way out. The next guy will be it at MSRP or just below.

 

What options do you have? All I can make out is 6MT...hand writing is too bad.

 

His contractual numbers work out to six percent. That's lower than here in Texas, where state sales tax on automobiles is 6.25 percent.

The number ($2048 and change) may look inflated because he didn't have a trade. (Or at least I don't see a trade.) You typically pay taxes only on the difference between what the dealer gives you on your trade and the sales price of the new car.

As far as the rest of this thread goes, I'll repeat what some smart fellows have mentioned. The price you pay depends on regional and local supply and demand. It's simple as that. People paying a whisker over invoice for these cars -- sedan or coupe -- doesn't surprise me a bit. Yes, the G35 is a nice car, but for crying out loud it's not a Ferrari. There's not a line of millionaires standing at the local Infiniti dealer's front door each Saturday, checkbooks in hand, begging to leave a deposit on a car to be delivered two years hence.

 

lol....yes, but it is not a civic either.

 

I payed 35,400 for mine! it is def possible

 

3.25% sales tax on automobiles in Oklahoma. $85 and some change for title and registration for new cars.

I wasn't trying to discredit his numbers by bringing this up... I've worked < $500 above invoice with several dealerships, so I know its possible.

 

I agree, but you have to see his point. I understand that they need to make $, and that there are lower amounts of units sold per year, compared to say a civic. But the dealers around here, want a premium price over invoice, because of supply and demand. And actually I won't even say supply and demand, I'll say it's because of most people that buy them. Too many people get hard or wet over it, that they'll damn near just pay what the dealer asks to have it, because they have to have it. They want it so bad, that they give in quite easily. If everyone that walked through the dealer's doors stepped up to the plate and haggled instead of giving in, well, it would be better for everyone. And no I don't mean buying the car and the dealership not making any money, I mean a fair price, not buying right at invoice etc. MSRP, I'd understand that with 0 dealer holdback, no rebates/incentives for them, etc. But as Sales pointed out, they are making nearly $1k on holdback alone. Not to mention, that if it's the local stealer, you'll be spending more $ with them in the service dept. I'm not buying a car to make some salesman/woman rich, I want a fair price. MSRP, isn't a fair price. No offense to anyone, but paying MSRP or close to it is a suckers game.

So yeah, I know it's not a Civic, but it's a entry level luxury car/sports coupe. It's not a M3 or a 911, it's a $30k + Nissan. Too many people make it into more than what it really is. It's a great car, and a great package, great value, but it's not the end all or be all. Infiniti (dealers in my area) would be better off doing the handshake/fair deal thing, and getting a customer for quite sometime and trying to earn my business for the longterm instead of trying to gouge me for whatever they can get. From my dealings with them, they think it's a Porsche dealership instead of uppety Nissan dealership. And I'm not bragging at all (honestly), but I can afford a much higher priced vehicle and still remain well within my budget ($ allocated for investments, etc) so I'm not hearing the dealerships around here and their attitude with the price.

Edit: Just for heckling sakes, it's not our fault that they don't make more manual transmission equipped coupes. For the dealer to haggle with me, explaining that it's a rare thing, makes me laugh. You can order one all day in this configuration so it's a moot point. And when I look on the lot and see a plethora of AT equipped coupes sitting unsold on the lot, and only a few MT coupes, if it was my business, I'd order more MT's and call Infiniti HQ in the USA and express my concerns. If it was LTD production vehicle, like say a Ford GT I'd understand.