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Why would one trade in an 04' 6mt for an 05 6mt?

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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ScapGF
Based on what?

Fact: 05 Horsepower gain will be offset by loss of torque
Fact: 05 brakes will begin to fade more quickly than Brembos when on track
Fact: 05 wheels will have a higher rotational mass than the 04


So how does the 04 get its 'clock cleaned' by an 05 on a road course?

If anything, the 2 cars will be neck and neck, with the 04 slightly ahead. Nothing major.
I agree with you here, the 04 will not get its "clock cleaned" (whatever that means) by a 05, especially on a course track
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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I can see why some who has money coming out there **** would trade an 04 because of the new interior upgrades, but as far the rims....I am sorry, I would buy after market rims that are a lot nicer that the stockers, which IMO are not nice at all on the 05. After all, if you trade in your '04 the dealer will give you like $3000-$4000 less than what is it really worth.....This would pay for nicer rims. As far as more hp.....you get less tq....so it's about the same.

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The 19" are lighter, and as far as them having a higfher rotational wieght... ummm the 19" comes with 40 series vs the 18" with 45 series, so the overall diameter is the same(or damn close)


Thre interior of the 05 rules over the 04 (IMO) The improved seat controls/memory of the drivers side, the consoles, the real alum panel rather than the plastic painted, the power tilt & TELESCOPE of the steering (with premium)
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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Anybody in their right mind will know that the 05 are better then the 03/04. Not everybody here on this forum are racers and take their G to the track on a weekly basis or whatever. Most people here drives their G as a daily driver. So with this in mind, it doesn't come down to the brakes at all. Yeah Brembos are nice, but not the cost to replace them though, can someone say OUCH!. Other then that, Infiniti addressed lots of issues with the 03/04 model, they give the G more of modern look to it w/o changing the best part of it, the exterior =). Just IMO.

For those of you that race with your G, keep your Brembos and be happy with it. While others that knows what looks good and have some taste to know that the 05's interior is a lot better, then rock on and enjoy your ride.
if you're really a track racer, get the 05 and slap some real brembos on them.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ScapGF
Based on what?

Fact: 05 Horsepower gain will be offset by loss of torque
Fact: 05 brakes will begin to fade more quickly than Brembos when on track
Fact: 05 wheels will have a higher rotational mass than the 04


So how does the 04 get its 'clock cleaned' by an 05 on a road course?

If anything, the 2 cars will be neck and neck, with the 04 slightly ahead. Nothing major.
oh gawd, idiots galore. Do we really have to discuss the hp/trq argument again? slightly lower max torque means nothing compared to the area under the torque curve which the '05s do better. hp is a function of torque and time. understand the concept before you post and mislead.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ScapGF
Based on what?

Fact: 05 Horsepower gain will be offset by loss of torque
Fact: 05 brakes will begin to fade more quickly than Brembos when on track
Fact: 05 wheels will have a higher rotational mass than the 04


So how does the 04 get its 'clock cleaned' by an 05 on a road course?

If anything, the 2 cars will be neck and neck, with the 04 slightly ahead. Nothing major.

Yo dude
Before you look for a fight with me understand that I own both a 2004 and 2005.
I do understand where you are coming from. Do not get to worked up over this. There is no way nobody can awners your questions because of the way this car was built. The 2005 is built more on the high end and on a long course it will beat you. My car 2004 just runs out of steam at 5900rpms and my 2005 pulls hard to over 6500rpms. I do not care what you think but understand you are at no risk here. You build your ride and And you will be where you need to be. Understand as the world turns you need to. My question here is are you a drag racer or just a cry babie? Grow up and show me something that brings value to this web site. Your new friend Dennis
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ScapGF
Based on what?

Fact: 05 Horsepower gain will be offset by loss of torque
Fact: 05 brakes will begin to fade more quickly than Brembos when on track
Fact: 05 wheels will have a higher rotational mass than the 04


So how does the 04 get its 'clock cleaned' by an 05 on a road course?

If anything, the 2 cars will be neck and neck, with the 04 slightly ahead. Nothing major.
please supply your rotational mass calculations before you present it as a fact. I would bet you do not even know how to calculate rotational mass let along know the weight of the 04 and 05 rims. Seems the only fact here is the proof people can talk out of their *** real well.

Think about it people. 04 person says "my brembos are awesome. I slap on 2000 dollars worth of bolt ons and I have 300hp and will out fade your *** on the track".

05 person says "I slap on 2000 dollars worth of brembo brakes and will out brake and out run you."

pissing contest.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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Yo dude
Before you look for a fight with me understand that I own both a 2004 and 2005.
Looks to me like YOU are the only person looking to fight.

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I do understand where you are coming from. Do not get to worked up over this.
Sounds like you are the only one worked up so far...
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There is no way nobody can awners your questions because of the way this car was built.
No way nobody ever didn't not teach you proper English. LOL
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The 2005 is built more on the high end and on a long course it will beat you. My car 2004 just runs out of steam at 5900rpms and my 2005 pulls hard to over 6500rpms. I do not care what you think but understand you are at no risk here.
And what about under braking?

Also, did I ever have a reason to think I was 'at risk'? And what kind of risk would that be? Confusing once again.



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You build your ride and And you will be where you need to be. Understand as the world turns you need to.
This isn't a discussion on being 'where I need to be.' As for the world turning and me needing to turn as well, what IN THE WORLD is that supposed to mean? I am neither stuck in my ways, not stupid enough to think otherwise. So what are you even talking about? Or are you not securely planted on terra firma yourself cupcake?

Originally Posted by GEE PASTA
My question here is are you a drag racer or just a cry babie?
Neither. I don't drag race very often at all, mostly into road courses. As for being a cry baby...what have I whined about in this thread? It is at this point in your post that I am beginning to suspect that you are drunk. Which is a better alternative to just being a dumbass.


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Grow up and show me something that brings value to this web site.
Grow up? Not needed here compadre. I am not the one rambling on and on about issues completely unrelated to this thread. Look in the mirror to find out who that person is. And no, you have brought no value WHATSOEVER to this thread. I'll check the website though, I am sure you have provided something useful. If anything at all, I am bringing some humor to those reading this post and laughing at how seriously you take this!

Originally Posted by GEE PASTA
Your new friend Dennis
Good to know that we are friends. You know, because the internet is so cool and all.


And by the way, are both of your G35s 6mt? And why would you want 2 G35s in the first place? Is one a modded car and the other a daily?

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John
 

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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 01:33 AM
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This is a really crazy discussion and I cut and pasted some of these comments and sent them to my buddy at the Nissan Motors Corp.

I will cut and paste the email ge sent but basically it said that the engineers at Nissan design the brakes on the 05 to perform slightly better than the mode of Bembos on the 04. The licensing costs of the Bembos would have made the car more than what they wanted to sell it at. Without the Bembos, they were allowed to make significant upgrades to the interior and engine without inflating the price.

Next, the interior was vastly improved for 05, which has given it a higher resale value. Moreover, they were receiving a lot of complaints about the quality of the interior on the previous models.

The loss of torque is not supposed to affect the performance because although the car has more horsepower, the engine is refined and the car's performance was upgraded for 05.

So basically that's what I got and when I get to the office I will cut and paste his comments.

Personally, I remember test driving the 04 and the problem I had was with the sensitivity of the brakes. They were Bembos but from what I understand, there are different types of Bembos. Personally, I am indifferent. I mean, the Bembos won't make the car a Porsche! Interior is a big difference to many drivers including myself because no matter what, I have to sit in the car.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ScapGF
Looks to me like YOU are the only person looking to fight.

Sounds like you are the only one worked up so far...
No way nobody ever didn't not teach you proper English. LOL

And what about under braking?

Also, did I ever have a reason to think I was 'at risk'? And what kind of risk would that be? Confusing once again.



This isn't a discussion on being 'where I need to be.' As for the world turning and me needing to turn as well, what IN THE WORLD is that supposed to mean? I am neither stuck in my ways, not stupid enough to think otherwise. So what are you even talking about? Or are you not securely planted on terra firma yourself cupcake?


Neither. I don't drag race very often at all, mostly into road courses. As for being a cry baby...what have I whined about in this thread? It is at this point in your post that I am beginning to suspect that you are drunk. Which is a better alternative to just being a dumbass.



Grow up? Not needed here compadre. I am not the one rambling on and on about issues completely unrelated to this thread. Look in the mirror to find out who that person is. And no, you have brought no value WHATSOEVER to this thread. I'll check the website though, I am sure you have provided something useful. If anything at all, I am bringing some humor to those reading this post and laughing at how seriously you take this!


Good to know that we are friends. You know, because the internet is so cool and all.


And by the way, are both of your G35s 6mt? And why would you want 2 G35s in the first place? Is one a modded car and the other a daily?

Your Friend,
John
John My x wife has the 2004 and yes its a 6mt. This I can say she does like the 2004 better. For me I like it all. No fight here.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GEE PASTA
John My x wife has the 2004 and yes its a 6mt. This I can say she does like the 2004 better. For me I like it all. No fight here.
Good deal then. If you ever have the opportunity to bring both of your cars to a road course let us know how your times compare in each respective ride.

The only way this will ever be settled is with lap times from a consistent driver.

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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ScapGF
Good deal then. If you ever have the opportunity to bring both of your cars to a road course let us know how your times compare in each respective ride.

The only way this will ever be settled is with lap times from a consistent driver.

Cheers
John Time is a funny thing. I just enjoy my time. Peace brother.
Trust me I can drive. 1977,1978,1979, 1987, Im trying now to be a good father. You try it. Watch out for the cool aid. Love ya dude Dennis
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 02:55 AM
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damn people enjoy your G's every year it will get better just admit it, one day our 05's wont be as good as the 07's what can we do, worry bout the bigger things in life and enjoy what you have now put this thread to an end already R.I.P
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 02:56 AM
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John Time is a funny thing. I just enjoy my time. Peace brother.
Trust me I can drive. 1977,1978,1979, 1987, Im trying now to be a good father. You try it. Watch out for the cool aid. Love ya dude Dennis
I am 23, still young, yes. But I own my own company and I pay for my car with money I earn.

LOL, sounds like you have had your fair share of cool aid to drink tonight

What kind of racing do you do?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ScapGF
I am 23, still young, yes. But I own my own company and I pay for my car with money I earn.

LOL, sounds like you have had your fair share of cool aid to drink tonight

What kind of racing do you do?


John

I do not do any racing any more. I was very involved in ----HHRA--- Drag racing And for what its worth I lost a lot of races. I did win a few and that what is what I think is the point here.

Cool aid is what my boys make a mess with. I know i like a simple life with cars that speak for them self's. I enjoy what the future brings and the new year brings more beginnings.
Enjoy your ride Brother. I can beat your *** with what Im doing. Just wait and learn. Again enjoy your ride.
 

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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 04:13 AM
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My dad will beat up your dad, let's argue!

J/K, as I'm way too old to be saying that **** but I need to learn some things still

Any year G is a nice car man, be happy that you can afford such a thing.

The Brembo hype is out of this world on this site. Yes they are good brakes. But if my memory serves me right, OEM Brembo calipers aren't going to be quite as good as the aftermarket Brembo packages, this goes for cars or motorcycles. Same way Duck/Aprilia Ohlins suspension isn't quite as good as the R/T forks. It's marginal between the two but a fact nonetheless. I happy that Nissan put good stock brakes on any year model. My $.02.
 
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