This seems rather silly to me unless...you want a new car.

But...if you are thinking of trading in your car for the HP diff, it seems a little silly.

Instead of losing money on the deal you can spend $1200 on exhaust and hi-flow intake and VOILA! That makes up for the HP diff.

Also, the 04 cars have the brembo's, which MOST LIKELY(im not getting in this arguement) can perform slightly better than the 05 brakes after use on the track.

Next there is the wheel size/weight issue. The 19in rims, assuming they weigh the same(or more than the 18in), will make the car perform slightly worse on track. This is because the weight of the 19in rim, even if identical to the 18in rim weight, will theoretically weigh more when spinning due to the increased rotational mass from the increased wheel diameter.

So here is the deal, if you have an 04 6mt and are looking for more TRACK related performance, no need to spend the extra $$$ on the 05.


Now, before I get flamed to all holy hell, let me put in my disclaimer!

***This post ONLY intended for those who think the extra HP increase between the 04 and 05 6mt's is worth the monetary $$$ difference between the two. If you feel like getting an 05 because you like the updated interior and the cool look of the 19in rims(and dont care about track perf.) this doesn't apply to you. In fact, I love the 05 wheels cosmetically***

 

id flame the shiz outa u but i dont feel like it

 

aiyo.....

 

I agree with you 100% I own both and the 2004 is just a little better from the stand point of drivability. Plus I like the nice Brembos" Now the 2005 6mt will run a little harder and rev a little higher. There are more things to be done on 05 6mt to wake it up a bit. No flames from me. But yes the new cams and plenum and a few other goodies with the 05 give it some room for more power. Its the journey. Enjoy your ride!

 

04 guauges look awful compared to the 05, and the interior is night and day, that alone with someone who has money can influence them to go that way, its all bout money in the end and dont you forget it

 

Why?

I am interested in hearing your take on why someone who wants ONLY the best track performance for the $$$ should trade in their 04 for an 05 instead of doing the simple exhaust and intake upgrades for much less $...

 

Well, if they wanted ONLY track performance, then you're right. It probably isn't worth it. But this IS a luxury/sport coupe. And while there may just be a teeny bit more "sport" in the 05s, I think there's quite a bit more "luxury". Maybe someone wants the MUCH nicer instrument panel, maybe they want the better controls, or the upgraded interior materials (real brushed aluminum looks better than aluminum colored plastic). Maybe they want to trade in that casette player for the MP3 player. Maybe they dig the new stone interior color, or want an Athens Blue, Lakeshore Slate or Serengeti Sand to be a little different. Maybe they are willing to sacrifice an ounce of performance to get those slick looking forged 19" wheels. And while they're at it, get an extra 18 HP to boot...

This car isn't JUST about track performance to most people, I'd guess.
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1. Most people I know of do/want to do the '03/04 to '05 transition because they have a 5AT and a 6MT suits their needs better, AND vice versa. Yes, there are people switching back to an automatic.

2. Surprised no one has brought it up, but it is safe to assume you don't spend too much time on here, otherwise you would have learned that the '05 19" are lighter by ~5 lbs each than the 18". So in spite of the added rotational mass, they would not perform any worse at the track than say a 350Z Track Model 18"..

Btw.. if I had a Twilight Blue with Brembos, like you, I wouldn't get an '05 either... The two things I like the most about the '04

 

i'll keep my 04' thank you. i think its cheaper to get 20 more horses than getting Aftermarket Brembo's. i love my Brembo's BTW.

 

I got the 04 because it has the brembo's. Im glad I got the brembo's too now that
im running 19's. none of that huge wheel gap inside the wheel.

 

well.... (just FYI)

The 19" are lighter, and as far as them having a higfher rotational wieght... ummm the 19" comes with 40 series vs the 18" with 45 series, so the overall diameter is the same(or damn close)

The Brakes issue is beat to death, the 05's are better than the standard 03/04, ,maybe not Brembo, but other than a long day at the track, there is no difference (i.e. stopping time/power)

Thre interior of the 05 rules over the 04 (IMO) The improved seat controls/memory of the drivers side, the consoles, the real alum panel rather than the plastic painted, the power tilt & TELESCOPE of the steering (with premium)

The list goes on and on...

Now don't get me wrong - the 04 and 03 are sweet, and trading it in for the 05 would be a bit much...

I will say this... when I started looking at the G there were a few things I didn't like in the Coupe... like the drivers seat back angle being manual, and no memory.
The steering that didn't telescope, and a couple other little things.... then bam.. they were just what I wanted in the 05

 

Um, I was with you until you mentioned seat memory. I have an 05 fully loaded, except for aero and I don't have seat memory. DId I miss something? Now you make me want to go back and check my seat!

 

seat memory in the sense that if you let someone in the backseat from either side, the seat can auto return to position and seat back recline position. NOT like 2 or 3 driver memory.

i.e. if you flip the back forward(with the door open) using either method (the side handle or the grab handle for the rear seat passenger. then press the button under the rear seat pasangers grab handle. The seat moves all the way forward.

To return to your posistion, you press the button again (seat slides back to previous postion) and then you push the seat back backwards and it lock at the prior tilt/angle.

 

Sounds like you're trying to talk yourself OUT of trading in your '04.5 for an '05. Come on man, just enjoy your car and move on...

 

Anybody in their right mind will know that the 05 are better then the 03/04. Not everybody here on this forum are racers and take their G to the track on a weekly basis or whatever. Most people here drives their G as a daily driver. So with this in mind, it doesn't come down to the brakes at all. Yeah Brembos are nice, but not the cost to replace them though, can someone say OUCH!. Other then that, Infiniti addressed lots of issues with the 03/04 model, they give the G more of modern look to it w/o changing the best part of it, the exterior =). Just IMO.

For those of you that race with your G, keep your Brembos and be happy with it. While others that knows what looks good and have some taste to know that the 05's interior is a lot better, then rock on and enjoy your ride.