Hp Gain Numbers W/o Forced Induction
#17
bang for the buck, there is no substitute for even the simplest forced induction kit vs. all those bolt-ons... As stated, ricer math does not work. Also, it's how a certain combination of the right parts, how they work together, and the tune that will dictate the final hp gain. That coupled with the fact that you're already dealing with an effecient motor, and the gains are much smaller. I would rather leave the motor bone stock. Save for a vortech or TT kit, and get a competent tuner.
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#21
You can't just add up all the power listed for the mods. They are overrated from the manufacturers for advertising perposes for one thing, and when you do multiple mods, you just can't add up the numbers and say that is the power you gained because you will gain far less than what simple math would suggest. That is just the way it works.
#22
Dude, I want to be the guy running the highflow cats and the test pipes on my car... Couple that with the 5hp/3 tq grounding wires and my ride will be the shiznit...
Sorry, that's as nice as I could be after reading that post... then again he only has 11 posts, maybe he really doesn't know.
Try this...
Headers: +15 hp / 18 tq $600
Sorry, that's as nice as I could be after reading that post... then again he only has 11 posts, maybe he really doesn't know.
Try this...
Headers: +15 hp / 18 tq $600
really more like +10hp / 15 tq $1200 + $500 install
Cams: +13 hp / 15 tq $1000really more like +10hp / 10 tq $1000 + $750 install
Grounding Kit: +5 hp / 3 tq $100 really more like +0hp / 0 tq
Test Pipes: +16 hp / 20 tq $289 really more like +5hp / 5 tq $300 + $50-$100 install
OR
High Flow Cats: +9 hp / 12 tq $455 really more like +5hp / 5 tq $500 + $50-$100 install
Pully's: +15-18 hp / 20 tq $324 really more like +3hp / 2 tq $300 + $50-$100 install
Exhaust: +14/18 hp / 18 tq $1000 really more like +5hp / 5 tq $1000 + $100 install
Intake (Cold Air): 14 hp / 12 tq $250 really more like +2hp / 2 tq $250 + $50 install
Last edited by neffster; 05-17-2005 at 06:51 AM.
#23
Once again....It is very hard to squeeze much more out of the VQ without FI, as it is tuned really well from the factory!
I would have to say my "Best bang for the Buck" mods would definately be:
Wheels / Tires
Springs / Sway Bars
Now I can get the power the car does have.....to the pavement!
I would have to say my "Best bang for the Buck" mods would definately be:
Wheels / Tires
Springs / Sway Bars
Now I can get the power the car does have.....to the pavement!
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#26
i just had some mods done over the weekend...let me just say, the numbers from the manufacturers are wayyyyy over inflated...i first dynoed my car with the kinetix plenum, z tube, and pop charger at 235wrhp..later that same day i installed kinetix HF Cats, jic y-pipe, fujitsubo exhaust and dynoed at 242...wtf...this should be proof that these so called mods are a total waste of $$$...the exhaust alone should have given me 8rwhp...i still need to get my ur pulley installed...i'm looking forward to gaining 1 additional hp...yippe...
FI is the way to go...as Dollar99 would put it, those are all "mickey mouse mods"...in fact, i was so disapappointed that i decided not to share my dyno graphs...
FI is the way to go...as Dollar99 would put it, those are all "mickey mouse mods"...in fact, i was so disapappointed that i decided not to share my dyno graphs...
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Originally Posted by ireloaded9
i just had some mods done over the weekend...let me just say, the numbers from the manufacturers are wayyyyy over inflated...i first dynoed my car with the kinetix plenum, z tube, and pop charger at 235wrhp..later that same day i installed kinetix HF Cats, jic y-pipe, fujitsubo exhaust and dynoed at 242...wtf...this should be proof that these so called mods are a total waste of $$$...the exhaust alone should have given me 8rwhp...i still need to get my ur pulley installed...i'm looking forward to gaining 1 additional hp...yippe...
FI is the way to go...as Dollar99 would put it, those are all "mickey mouse mods"...in fact, i was so disapappointed that i decided not to share my dyno graphs...
FI is the way to go...as Dollar99 would put it, those are all "mickey mouse mods"...in fact, i was so disapappointed that i decided not to share my dyno graphs...
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Originally Posted by GBousis
I checked these numbers with sites such as stillen, intense power, bullet proof all of them listed numbers like these. If you give or take a few horses here and there even if they all added up to 108 hp and 120 torque, give or take say subtract even 30 horses thats still 78 horses and 90 torque which is still insaine considering its a lot safer, and puts a lot less stress on the engine while still sustaining the warrantee.
After everything I've read and seen I think the best mod would be a plenum or a spacer combined with an exhaust mod. 8-10 hp peak, much less drop off near redline and no loss with a slight gain in the low end and also helps a/f ratio. Most people only focus on peak hp numbers but if you look at the entire graph I believe this mod is the best bang for the buck.