Hp Gain Numbers W/o Forced Induction
#31
05-17-2005, 12:37 PM
Originally Posted by limeg35
Here are dyno numbers of the some bolt-on, judge for yourselfs,.....dyno numbers
#32
05-17-2005, 02:14 PM
Originally Posted by clokwork
wow, these are some of the most bizzare numbers I have seen. I would not have expected it. A bone dry stock 05 seemed to have the better run of all the cars. I dont know what to think.
, but i got the same reaction when I first read it too 
So I think, if you want an faster car? buy an faster car begin with...
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05-17-2005, 02:35 PM
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That is exactly right. If you are wanting to mod your car because you want to make it operate better (breating mods, etc) by all means. This is better for your car.
However, if you are spending all this money on bolt-ons to up your HP triple digits, forget about it.
Spend the money you blow on bolt-ons on a faster car from the get-go.
However, if you are spending all this money on bolt-ons to up your HP triple digits, forget about it.
Spend the money you blow on bolt-ons on a faster car from the get-go.
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05-18-2005, 01:41 AM
#36
05-18-2005, 02:05 AM
Originally Posted by GBousis
I know a few of you wanted to know what are some common gains in hp / tq without upgrading to a turbo. Here is the nice and positive approach to your questions rather than a rude approach. These are numbers I found by companies with the following performance parts.
Headers: +15 hp / 18 tq $600
Cams: +13 hp / 15 tq $1000
Grounding Kit: +5 hp / 3 tq $100
Test Pipes: +16 hp / 20 tq $289
High Flow Cats: +9 hp / 12 tq $455
Pully's: +15-18 hp / 20 tq $324
Exhaust: +14/18 hp / 18 tq $1000
Intake (Cold Air): 14 hp / 12 tq $250
Your looking at a potential $4000 dollars in upgrades coming out to + 108 hp / 118 tq w/o a turbo imagine if you put all that plus a turbo you would be over 500 without any reasonable doubt. So if you have 10,000 to spend towards speed go for it! With some turbo kits you might be able to almost hit 600 which would be insaine!
Others for non hp:
Tein Coilover Shocks: $1700
Sway Bars: $269
Btw. Question what does the HKS Racing Succion Kit exactly do?
Headers: +15 hp / 18 tq $600
Cams: +13 hp / 15 tq $1000
Grounding Kit: +5 hp / 3 tq $100
Test Pipes: +16 hp / 20 tq $289
High Flow Cats: +9 hp / 12 tq $455
Pully's: +15-18 hp / 20 tq $324
Exhaust: +14/18 hp / 18 tq $1000
Intake (Cold Air): 14 hp / 12 tq $250
Your looking at a potential $4000 dollars in upgrades coming out to + 108 hp / 118 tq w/o a turbo imagine if you put all that plus a turbo you would be over 500 without any reasonable doubt. So if you have 10,000 to spend towards speed go for it! With some turbo kits you might be able to almost hit 600 which would be insaine!
Others for non hp:
Tein Coilover Shocks: $1700
Sway Bars: $269
Btw. Question what does the HKS Racing Succion Kit exactly do?
#37
05-18-2005, 04:29 AM
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just because you see exhaust is +14 and intake is +14 does not equal +28hp. THat is ricer math. Also these are claims from the manufacturer. They take the worst stock run and then take the best best best modified run and give you that number.
In real life an exhaust and intake combo will probably only give +6~8hp.... If you want to go fast for the best price, go nitrous.
Then in the long run go F/I...
I already seen used SC kits in the 2700~3500 price range.
In real life an exhaust and intake combo will probably only give +6~8hp.... If you want to go fast for the best price, go nitrous.
Then in the long run go F/I...
I already seen used SC kits in the 2700~3500 price range.
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05-18-2005, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by limeg35
Here are dyno numbers of the some bolt-on, judge for yourselfs,.....dyno numbers
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#40
05-18-2005, 11:24 PM
Originally Posted by LUV2DRIVEMYG35
It's a nice comparison, but it would have been a better indicator of the effectiveness of bolt-ons if all the cars were the same model year, same transmission, and more or less the same mileage.
, although the mileage are different, so it will lose HP the more miles you have? ......dyno numbers
#41
05-18-2005, 11:48 PM
Originally Posted by sugerman
it was my general impression that the major intention of these mods was not specifically peak HP gains. I thought it was more to broaden the torque curve, increase throttle response, etc. no?
#42
05-18-2005, 11:56 PM
^I don't agree with that at all. I would rather gain 10rwhp throughout 2k rpms to 6500rpms and not gain any peak hp than to gain little to none throughout the powerband and gain 10rwhp near red line.
I noticed this same thing on a recent dyno done with a 04 6mt with the spacers installed. He did a before and after dyno and he gained 7rwhp (i believe) but really only right at redline. The only good thing that the dyno graph showed was a good torque and hp gain from 2.5k rpms to 4k rpms.
I noticed this same thing on a recent dyno done with a 04 6mt with the spacers installed. He did a before and after dyno and he gained 7rwhp (i believe) but really only right at redline. The only good thing that the dyno graph showed was a good torque and hp gain from 2.5k rpms to 4k rpms.
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#44
05-20-2005, 09:26 AM
Originally Posted by ChazM
^I don't agree with that at all. I would rather gain 10rwhp throughout 2k rpms to 6500rpms and not gain any peak hp than to gain little to none throughout the powerband and gain 10rwhp near red line.
I noticed this same thing on a recent dyno done with a 04 6mt with the spacers installed. He did a before and after dyno and he gained 7rwhp (i believe) but really only right at redline. The only good thing that the dyno graph showed was a good torque and hp gain from 2.5k rpms to 4k rpms.
I noticed this same thing on a recent dyno done with a 04 6mt with the spacers installed. He did a before and after dyno and he gained 7rwhp (i believe) but really only right at redline. The only good thing that the dyno graph showed was a good torque and hp gain from 2.5k rpms to 4k rpms.
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