Stock 05 vs stock 04 races
Well, I don't want to continue the battle, but...........I ran a 14 flat at 101.12 mph with only a Intake. Several Z's ran the same night and were runiing 14.3-14.5 one 18.8 but you know that was a screw up. Most of the Z's had intakes or exhausts. 1 Z ran a 13.6 w/intake and test pipes. 05's are clearly faster with the 298 hp vs. 280 or even 287 hp.
Originally Posted by GT-Ron
But looking at the numbers, it clearly looks like you would have been ahead the entire way and won if you had managed something close to the same reaction time. Getting a late start is impossible (everything else being equal) to make up unless you have a power or weight advantage.
You managed to reel him back in from a .368 lead to just .016... ...with more weight, less TQ and only 11HP more. Certainly the performance of the two is close enough that it will always be a driver's race, as many of us have contended, but the time-slip you provided reflects performances not exactly equal. Your ride very nearly compensated for your bad reaction time. You ran a faster time when you did better on your reaction time, even though that reaction time was still slower than the '04's.
I know, the difference in performance is all academic and rarely an issue on the road. Driver ability will almost always be the deciding factor, even in car's with a 50HP difference.
You managed to reel him back in from a .368 lead to just .016... ...with more weight, less TQ and only 11HP more. Certainly the performance of the two is close enough that it will always be a driver's race, as many of us have contended, but the time-slip you provided reflects performances not exactly equal. Your ride very nearly compensated for your bad reaction time. You ran a faster time when you did better on your reaction time, even though that reaction time was still slower than the '04's.
I know, the difference in performance is all academic and rarely an issue on the road. Driver ability will almost always be the deciding factor, even in car's with a 50HP difference.
Another thing, the '03 and '04 coupes have 280hp...i think you might be thing of the '03 and '04 Z that has the 287hp.
Last edited by 98intrigue; May 26, 2005 at 01:10 PM.
Originally Posted by 98intrigue
Another thing, the '03 and '04 coupes have 280hp...i think you might be thing of the '03 and '04 Z that has the 287hp.
Originally Posted by wnt1bd
I realize that the G's had only 280 and the Z's had 287 that's why I posted both numbers. The 05's are still faster with less torque more horsepower, AND move rpm range. Everyone forgets about the extra couple hundred rpms that you get in an 05. If you have 2 equal drivers(not likely) and a 05 vs 04 the 05 will win.
Supposely the new 18" rims are somewhat forged. I plan to weigh mine once I get the car to see how much it weighs with the tire on it.
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Originally Posted by wnt1bd
I realize that the G's had only 280 and the Z's had 287 that's why I posted both numbers. The 05's are still faster with less torque more horsepower, AND move rpm range. Everyone forgets about the extra couple hundred rpms that you get in an 05. If you have 2 equal drivers(not likely) and a 05 vs 04 the 05 will win.
I noticed while racing that he did shift before me but any ground I would gain would be lost when i shifted, so it really didn't matter.
wnt1bd~ You live in cooler weather and probably a better track, speedworld is known for its shotty track conditions....I still stand by my conclusion that 05's are not faster. In fact if we were street racing he would of killed me, that is if I caught the light like I did at the track. Every race, when I beat him or not on ET he was always ahead of me by like 3 cars or so.
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Originally Posted by wnt1bd
Everyone forgets about the extra couple hundred rpms that you get in an 05. If you have 2 equal drivers(not likely) and a 05 vs 04 the 05 will win.
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Originally Posted by Klubbheads
How high can you rev 05s? I know its 7000 redline but does it go above that without hitting the rev limiter? Because every 03-04 I drove revs to 6900 rpms without hitting the rev limiter.
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^^completely wrong, my best 60' ft of the night was better than his, there were times where he trapped higher than me.......it just depends on the run.
Lightforce18~ Where in the world have you been. I have never said the 05's are faster than the 04's and the #'s don't show that either. There has only been 1 test of the 05's that I know of and I think it was 0-60 @ 5.8 sec but when a few more mags test I'm sure they will do better and probably get the same 5.5.
Lightforce18~ Where in the world have you been. I have never said the 05's are faster than the 04's and the #'s don't show that either. There has only been 1 test of the 05's that I know of and I think it was 0-60 @ 5.8 sec but when a few more mags test I'm sure they will do better and probably get the same 5.5.