How can anyone buy a Z?
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Re: How can anyone buy a Z?
both great cars....
i love my z (and the handles) b/c of its raw, visceral edge.
the g seems to offer more *value* but hey i wanted a sports car - not value. I dont need back seats. My wife and i are presently deciding btw a more practical car for her...looks like a 330 Ci vert vs the 03' CLK vert.
i love my z (and the handles) b/c of its raw, visceral edge.
the g seems to offer more *value* but hey i wanted a sports car - not value. I dont need back seats. My wife and i are presently deciding btw a more practical car for her...looks like a 330 Ci vert vs the 03' CLK vert.
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#19
Re: How can anyone buy a Z?
Let the pro tell you why the G is better!
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
CAR AND DRIVER ONLINE:
I'm starting to see 350Zs roaming the streets of L.A., and the design is not growing on me as I thought it would. Reason enough to buy an Infiniti G35 coupe instead. It's a great-looking car with a just-about-perfect stance, and it flaunts elegant contours. So it's 7 hp down on the Z-car; big deal, there's enough power to have fun with, and the slightly longer wheelbase helps avoid the dreaded freeway hop with which the 350Z is amply endowed. And then there's the back seat. At six foot five, I contend that only gnomes can sit back there, but the space is great for briefcases and jackets. The final point in the argument? Infiniti dealers. Case closed.
—Barry Winfield
There will come a time during the ownership of a 350Z when one fantasizes about hauling more than a single passenger and enjoying luggage capacity beyond that of a toothbrush and a pair of Speedos. At that point one might wish he or she had opted for the 350's larger and more elegant brother, the Infiniti G35 coupe. This is one tasty machine, a legitimate two-plus-two with accommodations for a duet of rear-seat travelers and ample trunk space for weekend jaunts. Heavier by 122 pounds and down by seven horsepower against the Z, this is not so much a sports car but rather a captivating grand tourer that ranks with the best in the world.
—Brock Yates
2003.5 - G35 6spd - Diamond Graphite/Graphite leather, prem, aero package/kit <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by Balzac72 on 06/14/03 08:05 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
CAR AND DRIVER ONLINE:
I'm starting to see 350Zs roaming the streets of L.A., and the design is not growing on me as I thought it would. Reason enough to buy an Infiniti G35 coupe instead. It's a great-looking car with a just-about-perfect stance, and it flaunts elegant contours. So it's 7 hp down on the Z-car; big deal, there's enough power to have fun with, and the slightly longer wheelbase helps avoid the dreaded freeway hop with which the 350Z is amply endowed. And then there's the back seat. At six foot five, I contend that only gnomes can sit back there, but the space is great for briefcases and jackets. The final point in the argument? Infiniti dealers. Case closed.
—Barry Winfield
There will come a time during the ownership of a 350Z when one fantasizes about hauling more than a single passenger and enjoying luggage capacity beyond that of a toothbrush and a pair of Speedos. At that point one might wish he or she had opted for the 350's larger and more elegant brother, the Infiniti G35 coupe. This is one tasty machine, a legitimate two-plus-two with accommodations for a duet of rear-seat travelers and ample trunk space for weekend jaunts. Heavier by 122 pounds and down by seven horsepower against the Z, this is not so much a sports car but rather a captivating grand tourer that ranks with the best in the world.
—Brock Yates
2003.5 - G35 6spd - Diamond Graphite/Graphite leather, prem, aero package/kit <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small"><EM>Edited by Balzac72 on 06/14/03 08:05 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
#20
Re: How can anyone buy a Z?
heres a thought...
imagine in the domestic market where both cars are sold as nissan - which has a greater following...the Fairlady or skyline? thats Non GTR there guys...
its pointless
lets just be happy that we can have an opinion and choose car that reflects it!
imagine in the domestic market where both cars are sold as nissan - which has a greater following...the Fairlady or skyline? thats Non GTR there guys...
its pointless
lets just be happy that we can have an opinion and choose car that reflects it!
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Re: How can anyone buy a Z?
I only looked at the G35 initially, because I hate the back end of the Z. I did look at one afterewards and I was disappointed with it. The Z and the G are not the same cars. Some people call the G a 2+2 Z, but it definitely is not. The interior of the Z seems cheap and confined by comparison. The dash in the Z has no glove compartment. It is behind the passenger seat, but the G has 2. The look and feel of the controls is more plain. The instrument pod tilts like the G, but looks a lot cheaper and sticks up like an afterthought. For the price of a G35 6-sp with Premium, you get everything the track model has to offer, plus the leather, Bose, etc. of the touring model and a longer warranty with better service for the money of a track model without options. Plus, nissan is building over twice as many Z's as G coupes. The Z does have a heritage and is a true 2-seat sports car so there is a market for it, but on paper the G does have the edge.
04' G35 Coupe(on order)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
04' G35 Coupe(on order)
6-sp Diamond Graphite/Willow w/Premium
#22
Re: How can anyone buy a Z?
my thought exactly, I too looked at the Z before i bought the G but never drove the Z, so i can't comment on performance. However, the Zs interior seemed to have a very plain feel to me. I also preferred the look of the G, but thats just personal opinion. That "stabilizer bar" in the rear of the Z, was a very poor idea IMO, it cuts the limited amount of storage space to even LESS, not smart. Consider the warranty difference of 36k mi VS 60k mi and at a price difference of only a few grand, the G is a much better value. No wonder the 04s are going up in price!
The real competition for me was the bmw z4, but its more expensive overall, and they really seem to nickel and dime you with the add on packages you need. (Leather, fog lights, alarm, wheel upgrade, power roof, etc,etc.) By the time you get a comparable z4 the price tag is +40k. Thats a ton of money for a car with only 2 seats!
6MT red/willow, premium, aero
The real competition for me was the bmw z4, but its more expensive overall, and they really seem to nickel and dime you with the add on packages you need. (Leather, fog lights, alarm, wheel upgrade, power roof, etc,etc.) By the time you get a comparable z4 the price tag is +40k. Thats a ton of money for a car with only 2 seats!
6MT red/willow, premium, aero
#24
Re: How can anyone buy a Z?
In my mind, the one and only thing the Z has over the G is heritage. And I'll give it props for that. Performance? Nah, 7 horses and 122 less pounds won't give you that much and the G makes up for it in better handling and braking anyway. Since styling is subjective and I've heard people swing both ways, there's no clear winner there. But the G offers 2 extra seats, better luxury and interior, usable storage space, better warranty, superior service, comfortable ride, and seats that have been described as second only to Recaros.
All this versus heritage...hmmmm...
The choice was easy for me.
Someone also pointed out that everyone seemed to be looking at the Z first and then went with the G. There's a reason for that...the Z was hyped and released far earlier than the G. I had been reading about the upcoming Z for years (ever since the concept drawings after the last Z's demise) before I heard a thing about the G. Heck, I was certain a year ago that my next car would be either the new Z or a 330Ci. But when I saw and heard about the coupe, all that changed because it bridged the gap between those 2 cars perfectly.
All this versus heritage...hmmmm...
The choice was easy for me.
Someone also pointed out that everyone seemed to be looking at the Z first and then went with the G. There's a reason for that...the Z was hyped and released far earlier than the G. I had been reading about the upcoming Z for years (ever since the concept drawings after the last Z's demise) before I heard a thing about the G. Heck, I was certain a year ago that my next car would be either the new Z or a 330Ci. But when I saw and heard about the coupe, all that changed because it bridged the gap between those 2 cars perfectly.
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#26
Re: How can anyone buy a Z?
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....ber=3&preview=
I'll even quote for you: "And thanks to its slightly longer wheelbase (112.2 in. to the Z's 104.3), the car feels more balanced and stable through corners than the Z, especially noticeable through quick left/right transitions where the Z's rear end can become a touch twitchy. In fact, the G35 recorded better handling numbers at the test track. It achieved 0.92g around the skidpad and danced through the slalom at 67.7 mph, besting the 350Z's 0.89g and 65.6 mph."
And just in case you don't trust R&T, here's a bit from C&D:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
"But whether because of the meatier 18-inch rubber that is standard on the six-speed coupe or a relocated center of gravity (or both), the G35 coupe remains unflappably stable and neutrally balanced. Indeed, the coupe turned in a scorching 0.90-g run on the skidpad, the highest number by 0.02 g we have recorded for the entire G35/Z family."
Any questions?
I'll even quote for you: "And thanks to its slightly longer wheelbase (112.2 in. to the Z's 104.3), the car feels more balanced and stable through corners than the Z, especially noticeable through quick left/right transitions where the Z's rear end can become a touch twitchy. In fact, the G35 recorded better handling numbers at the test track. It achieved 0.92g around the skidpad and danced through the slalom at 67.7 mph, besting the 350Z's 0.89g and 65.6 mph."
And just in case you don't trust R&T, here's a bit from C&D:
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
"But whether because of the meatier 18-inch rubber that is standard on the six-speed coupe or a relocated center of gravity (or both), the G35 coupe remains unflappably stable and neutrally balanced. Indeed, the coupe turned in a scorching 0.90-g run on the skidpad, the highest number by 0.02 g we have recorded for the entire G35/Z family."
Any questions?
#27
Re: How can anyone buy a Z?
I have one question/comment.
OBVIOUSLY, by your informative reply you tend to read, as opposed to some others who seem to want a "toke" instead.
Ohhh well .... to each his own, which ironically suits this thread rather well.
Laterrrrr G's [img]/w3timages/icons/cool.gif[/img]
OBVIOUSLY, by your informative reply you tend to read, as opposed to some others who seem to want a "toke" instead.
Ohhh well .... to each his own, which ironically suits this thread rather well.
Laterrrrr G's [img]/w3timages/icons/cool.gif[/img]
#29
Re: How can anyone buy a Z?
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ahhh....thats right the bench racers rule!
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Someone help me out, did my eyes just roll at 0.92g, or was it the inferior sort of eye roll that even a Z driver could match?
-Jack
Obsidian/graphite '03 Coupe premium nav
ahhh....thats right the bench racers rule!
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Someone help me out, did my eyes just roll at 0.92g, or was it the inferior sort of eye roll that even a Z driver could match?
-Jack
Obsidian/graphite '03 Coupe premium nav
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