G35 Coupe V35 2003 - 07 Discussion about the 1st Generation V35 G35 Coupe

My First and Last Meguiar’s Experience.

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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I can't believe you think Meguiar’s is responsible for this.

1) You applied it in the wrong conditions. Hot and humid is not the time to be waxing a car. Humidity doesn't allow the wax to dry therefore you end up smearing and pushing it around instead of pulling it off.

2) You clearly applied way too much product. A very very light coat is all it takes. Just enough to make a haze. If you apply too much, ANY wax is going to take forever to pull off.

3) The scratches were not caused by the product, they were caused by you using a poor quality or dirty terry cloth towel.


I've used all types of detailing products (Zymol, Meguiar’s, Zaino, etc) and Meguiar’s is by far the best for the money. The wax easily goes on and comes off, assuming you apply it the way you should. I apply wax to 50% of my car and I never have issues with pulling the wax off. I personally know 3 guys that use Meguiar’s in their detail businesses and they've never reported what you describe.

The fact that Meguiar’s sent you free products even when it's clear they were not at fault only proves to me they are a quality company.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by G35Girlie
I use meguires all the time...Their spray wax is HORRIBLE! It took the paint right off my acura. I have a red acura and the white towels were completely red when i was done.

I now stick to their car wash, quick detailer, with those towels he is sending you (they are great towels), and the liquid wax he is sending you. All great products. Just STAY AWAY from their spray wax. That is the only horrible product i have found from them so far! Sorry you had to experience this like I did. Luckily I found out after doing just a small section of the car.
The spray wax isn't the problem, it's your Integra's paint. Either the car was old or it had been repainted with a poor paint job. Think about for a second. If your car is red and you're towels are red, then it's pretty dang clear that the clear coat layer doesn't exist anymore. Paint doesn't come off unless the clear coat is gone.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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I'd look at the towels really good as far as suspects for the scratches.

I used to use Meguire's all the time too. Never had that much trouble, but it was always a PITA to remove the wax. To top it all off, after a weekend-long, 3 or 4 step waxing process, I'd end up with mediocre results!

Come to find out, the terry towels I was using were complete ****. 100% cotton, my ***! After following the towel specifications suggested by Zaino Bros., the difference in towel quality is apparent and the complete lack of scratches and swirls is proof that the towels can make or break a finish!

I'd suggest you look into getting some Z7, Z2 and Z6 of Zaino from www.zainobros.com I've NEVER used a wax or polish that was this easy to apply and remove, regardless of what no-hassle, easy-off wax I tried. A few hours is all it takes now for the entire car, AND I end up with results far superior to anything I've used in the past. The good towels are a tremendous help in avoiding scratches, but the overall qaulity of shine is still far beyond what I was able to achieve with the 2-day, 3-4 step process using Meguire's.

I'm not going to claim that Zaino is the best thing on the market (it wouldn't surprise me if it is), but I will tell you, without a doubt, that it's the easiest product that I've ever used AND it's provided me with the best results. I've always preffered good results over an easy wax job. I never skipped steps in my search for a superior finish... ...which is why I'm so pleased with the results and ease of use with the Zaino.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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i use meguiars cleaner wax all the time. never had your problems. it's better to do it a section of the time. and i think i remember seeing that in the directions. as one poster said, ANY wax will be hard to get off if you put a lot in and let it dry too long. but an old wax could compound the problem still.

also, final polishing or buffing towels are not very good at removing wax. use terry cloth, then buff w/ a polishing towel after.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Just use Zaino and you won't have these problems.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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You will always get surface marring on a black or dark color'd car regardless of the wax or towels you use, it's just a fact of life. There are ways to minimize it, but it sounds like this will be a learning experience for you. Personally I only use two Meg's products (DACP #83, and ScratchX) and find them both to be very easy to use and wonderful at what they do, you just have to do it right.

Just as an fyi, I love Zaino, but on dark cars even buffing off Z2 (which is really easy) will get you a few swirls.

Originally Posted by DaveB
I've used all types of detailing products (Zymol, Meguiar’s, Zaino, etc) and Meguiar’s is by far the best for the money. The wax easily goes on and comes off, assuming you apply it the way you should. I apply wax to 50% of my car and I never have issues with pulling the wax off. I personally know 3 guys that use Meguiar’s in their detail businesses and they've never reported what you describe.
Couldn't agree more. For the cost and ease of aquiring even professional Megs products, they are pretty darn good. Maybe the wax isn't as easy to apply as Z2 or as awesome looking as Souveran, but at $12 at almost any local car shop they're tough to beat.
 

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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hahaha, you used cleaner wax on the entire car.

Use NXT Techwax instead.

CleanerWax is for spot waxing, imho. And i use it on occasion but it's not
hard to remove.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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NXT Techwax is what i use to do a quick detail. i also use all Meguiar’s, nothing else. i love Meguiar’s and never had any problem. if its a liquid wax, make sure you shake em to mix very well, if not from my experience wax seems extra difficult to remove and get swirl marks. just my $.02
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
I can't believe you think Meguiar’s is responsible for this.

1) You applied it in the wrong conditions. Hot and humid is not the time to be waxing a car. Humidity doesn't allow the wax to dry therefore you end up smearing and pushing it around instead of pulling it off.

2) You clearly applied way too much product. A very very light coat is all it takes. Just enough to make a haze. If you apply too much, ANY wax is going to take forever to pull off.
#1, ~80-84 degrees and 75-80% humidity is as good as it gets during the evenings here so i guess no one can wax a car in the south during the summer??? a bit unrealistic i would say. I did it in the late evening in the shade so I took all of the environmental caution I could.

#2 How do you know how much I applied. The car did have a haze after I finished.

I believe my fault was waiting too long for the wax to dry I should have waited 5 minutes instead of 10
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done the car section by section.

I was unhappy with meguiar's because I followed the directions as listed using their materials and did not get the desired results. I didn't expect to get anything out of it, I just wanted to speak with someone at the company.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
hahaha, you used cleaner wax on the entire car.

Use NXT Techwax instead.

CleanerWax is for spot waxing, imho. And i use it on occasion but it's not
hard to remove.
NXT Techwax recommends using a cleaner wax before applying. This is to remove old wax but at the same time giving a good shine. Meguiars cleaner wax is great at this.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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if it's hard to remove then you put too much product on the car or there's moisture on the car.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Use Meguars NXT wax. I assure you that you will have no complaints.

Easy on.... Easy off, great shine, lasts long enough given how easy it is to use.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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you probably put too much wax on the car too. You want it to be a very thin layer, so you can barely see the haze of it. If you put it on until your car looks white, it will be a b!tch to take off.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowjacket01
#1, ~80-84 degrees and 75-80% humidity is as good as it gets during the evenings here so i guess no one can wax a car in the south during the summer??? a bit unrealistic i would say. I did it in the late evening in the shade so I took all of the environmental caution I could.
This morning in Corpus at 0630 it was 84 degrees and 85% humidity. It's gotten worse since then.

When I wax, which is all the time, I do small areas and lay on very thin coats. It's no problem, even with the crappy weather. It's easier when the humidity is down and the temperature is cooler, but that won't be until December down here.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
The spray wax isn't the problem, it's your Integra's paint. Either the car was old or it had been repainted with a poor paint job. Think about for a second. If your car is red and you're towels are red, then it's pretty dang clear that the clear coat layer doesn't exist anymore. Paint doesn't come off unless the clear coat is gone.
BINGO! +1
 
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