G35 Coupe V35 2003 - 07 Discussion about the 1st Generation V35 G35 Coupe

My First and Last Meguiar’s Experience.

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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i think something is wrong with your waxing, or the wax. i've used Meguiars since VTEC came out and had no problems whatsoever. even in lowriding days. i work on the shipyard here in hawaii, and my car is prone to crazy elements of mother nature. i've tried Zaino, and it's a damn good product, but just doesn't cut it like Meguiar's does.

maybe the bottle of wax wasn't shaked for a while? i'm not trying to sound harsh towards you, but i think you should try again, or ditch that bottle.

i've used the cleaner wax, then the gold class for years. ever since the Meguiar's NXT line came out, i've been using that. car wash and everything. minus tire cleaner (i use the insane shine though).
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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didnt read the pervious post but isnt cleaner wax used to take off wax?! -.- its also good for taking off some tar n crap that gets stuck to the surface as well as cleaning head lights..
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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I used Meguiars Spray Wax yesterday. It seemed to come out great, and very quickly I might add.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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just for all the doubters let me quote the Meguiar's can in regards to doing patches or the entire car......


"For best results apply to a clean, cool surface in the shade. Apply small amount of product on foam applicator or 100% cotton terry cloth and spread a thin, even coat over the entire vehicle and let dry. No need to do just a section at a time. Keep off vinyl...."


So I did do all of that and I think that is where my problem lies with Meguiar's
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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..the directions on my Meguiar's Deep Crystal System PAINT CLEANER goes...

"Vehicle surface should be washed, cool and in the shade. Shake Well. Apply small amount of product on an applicator pad or 100% cotton, terry cloth towel and apply to small section at a time. Do not let product dry. Wipe immediately with a clean, 100% cotton, terry cloth towel or microfiber. (Severely damaged paint may require professional machine applied products)"

...that's verbatium, the bottle is a dark red color, and its liquid...

I just wanted to know which product you are using for sure, that way I can steer clear. I think everyone else is getting defensive since alot of them are Meguiar's loyals... I supposed I am as well since all I use is the Meguiars paint cleaner, then gold glass, and quick detailer in between waxes....

...I don't think the weather is a huge factor since here in central FL its always hot day or night, or its rainy... but I bet you its just a combination of old wax + poor quality towel + just a little too much wax... I let the car dry for 30 mins sometimes but haven't had bad results yet....

I'd be pissed if I scratched my car too
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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You made about 10 mistakes with the way you detailed your car... and it's whose fault? Did you write this thread in the dark...? Or just wax the car in the dark?
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by G35Vision
You made about 10 mistakes with the way you detailed your car... and it's whose fault? Did you write this thread in the dark...? Or just wax the car in the dark?

By all means give me the 10...
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 2slo2bfurious
"Meguiar's Cleaner Wax: Clear Coat Safe"
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
The spray wax isn't the problem, it's your Integra's paint. Either the car was old or it had been repainted with a poor paint job. Think about for a second. If your car is red and you're towels are red, then it's pretty dang clear that the clear coat layer doesn't exist anymore. Paint doesn't come off unless the clear coat is gone.
You beat me to the punch with your comment. There's almost a 100% chance that the car was repaainted. I saw the same thing happen on two repainted cars.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by yellowjacket01
just for all the doubters let me quote the Meguiar's can in regards to doing patches or the entire car......


"For best results apply to a clean, cool surface in the shade. Apply small amount of product on foam applicator or 100% cotton terry cloth and spread a thin, even coat over the entire vehicle and let dry. No need to do just a section at a time. Keep off vinyl...."


So I did do all of that and I think that is where my problem lies with Meguiar's
yellowjacket01: I bought the same wax for my Audi and had no problems applying it when it was new. Although you are right on with your quote, I always waxed a relatively small area, waited a minute or two and then removed the wax. I had no problems when the wax was new, but after the wax was a year old, I experienced the same problems that you did. I believe the best thing to do with old waxes and polishes is simply to discard them.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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i like liquid glass. its the shiznit, and comes off nice and easy.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowjacket01
By all means give me the 10...
1.You start waxing the car at 8:30PM.

In the dark outside with air born particles. You did the whole car... Although you can do the car like the bottle said. You leave the outside elements to fall on the back of the car while you are working the front area or vise versa. You should always do sections at a time while outside & always look over the area you are about to clean/rub/wax/dry... and so on. You can’t do this in the dark...

Not to mention you can drop the hose for a second on the ground and pick up a pebble on the nozzle and hose it right back onto your car. How can you see that in the dark? And I’m sure you assumed the whole car was clean since you just washed it. And just breezed right into the wax job... As you said a quick wax cause of the time.

2. You assume Dad's got everything you will need.

(But know nothing of the condition the things are in)... Cause they are not yours. Are they cleaned after each use? Did anything hit the floor or pick up anything foreign lying around in the garage that you could not have known about because they are not yours. Not to mention to dark to see prolly.

Was the wash mitt cleaned before use? Did you use a wash & rinse bucket method? Was everything removed from a sealed bag or Tupperware (towels, wash mitt, wax applicator and so on) before you started using them? My point... you have no idea how the tools you are using are because they are not yours. How they were taken care of before you started is important!

3. Washing it using one of those really soft terry-cloth towel/mitts...

NOT REALLY SOFT AT ALL. Use a natural wool sheepskin mitt

4. I'm sure you will tell me you did the undercarriage last.

But you mention nothing about a different mitt for doing the wheels or undercarriage. I will assume you did the whole car with the same mitt and 1 bucket (no rinse bucket) since you never spoke of more then one. Nor did you describe the style used for cleaning each panel. Just, I go over the body, front, back, and undercarriage.

5. Meguiar’s Cleaner Wax...

Not needed if the car is in “like new” or new condition. You said you were bored... I can think of 200 other things to do when im bored at that hour... So I'll assume you keep the car in nice shape & just wanted to clean in up. You don't need a cleaner wax for that. No matter how "safe" it may be it’s still an abrasive cleaner. Put that together with a night time wax job with products you never used... you're done.

6. I was unfamiliar with the wax and start applying the wax using the supplied foam pad.

Was the pad cleaned before you used it ... did it hit the floor before Dad put it back. Did you clean it first? Or just assume dad was the car guy again?

7. 85% humidity ... don't really think I need to say anything more for that.
8. I notice the wax is a little goey for my preference.

How old was it? If you are unsure of the products you are about to use... why go any further? Maybe the wax has separated and was too old to use. Wax should never be stored in an outside garage with heat above 70 or 75*... like you said it was in the garage. Was the wax dipped with a cloth that was dirty & had more abrasives in it or some foreign contaminants? You don’t know!

9. Painful scrubbing with just a terry cloth towel...

Wax should never eva be painful to remove... you used bad wax to start with & you scrubbed rather then buffed off .. You used a terry cloth towel that will scratch your car. No matter what they tell you ... terry cloth scratches. Not to mention hold & trap dirt and foreign particles inside the nap.

10. 2 scratch 12 inches in length and in a "semi-circular shape".

If that is the shape you applied or removed the wax the wrong way... or washed the car the wrong way... or dried the car the wrong way... you tell me

That is 10 things with many other things listed within the 10.
The point is made the post is long .. but you forgot about pilot error ...There is nothing wrong with Meguiar’s products .. you just did a half a$$ clean & wax .. And need to blame somebody .. You're just lucky Meguiar’s is a nice company to deal with .. They are sending you free products to fix what "you the detailer screwed up"
 
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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damn that sucks

i used to use the NXT before i got zaino.. i admit it was tough to take off...but nothin like you just described..
and i guess thats where most of the scratches on the hood and rear came from..
 
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveB
The spray wax isn't the problem, it's your Integra's paint. Either the car was old or it had been repainted with a poor paint job. Think about for a second. If your car is red and you're towels are red, then it's pretty dang clear that the clear coat layer doesn't exist anymore. Paint doesn't come off unless the clear coat is gone.
the car was 6 months old nad i bought it brand new. We then tested it on my friends Blue Neon, which was also only a few months old because she was getting her body kit on and didnt care about the bumpers that were comig off, and it did the same to her car.

We were at a show when this happened and Meguires happened to be there with a booth. We took them over to both our cars and showed them what happened and they told us somethiing was wrong with the product, that it was probably a bad batch and to stop using it. They then gave us the regular wax to use to finish the car and that was fine.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FAST1
You beat me to the punch with your comment. There's almost a 100% chance that the car was repaainted. I saw the same thing happen on two repainted cars.

the car was never repainted. It was brand new. And it did it to two different cars, not just mine.

I didnt post this for everyone to rip my car apart and tell me there were things wrong with it. I posted to let him know that things have happened to others as well. Once in a while a bad batch gets out, as did with the bottle of QUICK WAX that i had. I am in no way bad mouthing Meguires. I use all their products and at one time my car was sponsored by them. I just dont trust their quick wax anymore and stick to their gold class pour on wax and the quick detailer. They are a good company and they are willing to send you a new product if you tell or show them you had a problem with one of their products as i did that day at the show and he just did when he wrote to them.
 

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