You know, I thought you were just giving the kid a hard time GMan but I know if i'm able to get to someone in an accident and I'm first on the scene I'm looking for some kind of response, and if not I'm checking for a pulse.

If the story is true then good choice in not racing the guy, usually STi owners are pretty responsible.. its hard to get them to race unless its on a track.

 

the way the crash happened was he hit a wall and went threw hit....he didnt hit the center but the very corner...if he would have hit the center he would have gone threw and hit a house.... i pulled over about couple hundred feet from the accident because there were no streets after the house.... i got out and a few seconds later the owner of the house was running out his door with a flash light...i didnt ditch when the cops came...actually the frist on seen was an ambulance and then a FHP (highway patrol)....i did see the kid....he was wearin his seat belt....i took some pics with my phone of the car in the woods after the kid was removed and the tow truck was there... he was so far back that if i didnt see it happen or if the house wasnt there he prob wouldnt have been found for awhile. but i ran up and being i live in florida it was really swampy where the car was... he seemed to be bleeding from everywhere but couldnt tell exactly where...i moved the seat belt from his neck afraid of him choking...but by then it had been like 10 min and the firetruck was there...they wouldnt let me go near him...i sat there for more the hour having to fill out paper saying i wasnt racing him and what happened......street racing sround here gets u in jail..the only sight i really remember is of the accident and then seeing the steering wheel in the car..it was bent in half....and the airbag was deployed but ripped

 

this law is coming soon.

Florida Passes Car Confiscation Legislation
Police in Florida can seize cars used in racing without a hearing or due process.

Yesterday the Florida Senate unanimously approved legislation that would increase the fines for "drag racing" and give police the power to seize automobiles used in races. As the House passed the measure on Monday by a vote of 111-1, the measure will now go to Governor Jeb Bush for his signature.

State Representative John Quinones (R-Kissimmee) introduced the bill following drag racing accidents that claimed four lives last year. The legislation provides maximum penalties including a $1000 fine, two-year license suspension and imprisonment for violators. The police can also immediately seize a car used in a race for 10 days without due process for the first offense. On the second offense, police can seize and sell the car used, regardless of its value.

The legislation only defines drag racing as comparing the speed or power of one vehicle to another vehicle on a public road or in a parking lot, "at accelerating speeds in a competitive attempt to outdistance each other." The penalties apply regardless of whether anyone was actually harmed or threatened with harm from such a contest.

Article Excerpt:
HB 71, Engrossed 2005
FLORIDA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

A bill to be entitled
An act relating to motor vehicle speed competitions; amending s. 316.191, F.S.; defining the term "conviction"; specifying that the section applies to motor vehicles; revising penalties for violation of prohibitions against described motor vehicle speed competitions; providing for impoundment of vehicles used in violation of motor vehicle speed competition provisions; providing for application of the Florida Contraband Forfeiture Act; providing an effective date.

Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:

Section 1. Section 316.191, Florida Statutes, is amended to read:
316.191 Racing on highways.—
(1) As used in this section, the term:
(a) "Conviction" means a determination of guilt that is the result of a plea or trial, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld.
(b) "Drag race" means the operation of two or more motor vehicles from a point side by side at accelerating speeds in a competitive attempt to outdistance each other, or the operation of one or more motor vehicles over a common selected course, from the same point to the same point, for the purpose of comparing the relative speeds or power of acceleration of such motor vehicle or motor vehicles within a certain distance or time limit.
(c) "Racing" means the use of one or more motor vehicles in an attempt to outgain or, outdistance another motor vehicle, to or prevent another motor vehicle from passing, to arrive at a given destination ahead of another motor vehicle or motor vehicles, or to test the physical stamina or endurance of drivers over long-distance driving routes.
(2)(a) A person may not:
1. Drive any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, in any race; speed competition or contest; drag race or acceleration contest; test of physical endurance, or; exhibition of speed or acceleration; or for the purpose of making a speed record on any highway, roadway, or parking lot;
2. In any manner participate in, coordinate, facilitate, or collect moneys at any location for any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition;
3. Knowingly ride as a passenger in any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition; or
4. Purposefully cause the movement of traffic to slow or stop for, any such race, competition, contest, test, or exhibition.

Any person who violates any provision of this paragraph commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Any person who violates any provision of this paragraph shall pay a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000, and the department shall revoke the driver license of a person so convicted for 1 year. A hearing may be requested pursuant to s. 322.271.

(b) Any person who violates paragraph (a) within 5 years after the date of a prior violation that resulted in a conviction for a violation of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, and shall pay a fine of not less than $500 and not more than $1,000. The department shall also revoke the driver license of that person for 2 years. A hearing may be requested pursuant to s. 322.271.
(c) In any case charging a violation of paragraph (a), the court shall be provided a copy of the driving record of the person charged and may obtain any records from any other source to determine if one or more prior convictions of the person for violation of paragraph (a) have occurred within 5 years prior to the charged offense.
(3) Whenever a law enforcement officer determines that a person was engaged in a drag race or race, as described in subsection (1), the officer may immediately arrest and take such person into custody. The court may enter an order of impoundment or immobilization as a condition of incarceration or probation. Within 7 business days after the date the court issues the order of impoundment or immobilization, the clerk of the court must send notice by certified mail, return receipt requested, to the registered owner of the motor vehicle, if the registered owner is a person other than the defendant, and to each person of record claiming a lien against the motor vehicle.
(a) Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, the impounding agency shall release a motor vehicle under the conditions provided in s. 316.193(6)(e), (f), (g), and (h), if the owner or agent presents a valid driver license at the time of pickup of the motor vehicle.
(b) All costs and fees for the impoundment or immobilization, including the cost of notification, must be paid by the owner of the motor vehicle or, if the motor vehicle is leased or rented, by the person leasing or renting the motor vehicle, unless the impoundment or immobilization order is dismissed. All provisions of s. 713.78 shall apply.
(c) Any motor vehicle used in violation of subsection (2) may be impounded for a period of 10 business days if a law enforcement officer has arrested and taken a person into custody pursuant to this subsection and the person being arrested is the registered owner or coowner of the motor vehicle. If the arresting officer finds that the criteria of this paragraph are met, the officer may immediately impound the motor vehicle. The law enforcement officer shall notify the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles of any impoundment for violation of this subsection in accordance with procedures established by the department. The provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) shall be applicable to such impoundment.
(4) Any motor vehicle used in violation of subsection (2) by any person within 5 years after the date of a prior conviction of that person for a violation under subsection (2) may be seized and forfeited as provided by the Florida Contraband Forfeiture Act. This subsection shall only be applicable if the owner of the motor vehicle is the person charged with violation of subsection (2).
(5) This section does not apply to licensed or duly authorized racetracks, drag strips, or other designated areas set aside by proper authorities for such purposes.

Section 2. This act shall take effect October 1, 2005.

 

well, flinging your dumbarse off the road is Instant Karma. They would be seizing a mass of crumpled metal. Although getting stuck with a 25K car note with nothing to show is a hell of a penalty. I assume insurance wouldnt be excited about paying for a road race claim, especially with forfeiture laws.

taken literally, thats a pretty common offense for leaving a stoplight/sign, often by yourself. The second car thing is not explicitly mentioned.

Dammit, I am totally against street racing, but nothing in this country should be without due process or hearing. NOTHING. Its not worth injustice that will be leveled on a select few without respresentation. FL already has a pretty bad rap with property seizure and lower class people who cant afford fight it. It breeds corruption.

 

wow thanks for telling me that story

 

I flipped over a car myselft when I was 20. Thank god no one was hurt but my friend's 240SX was totaled. These sh*ts can happen anytime and to anyone, even the ones that are not racing. I wanna put my wife and kid in a SUV after hearing all these horror stories from my clients.

 

dont better off putting them in a Large Sedan. those SUVs flip like crazy

 

Well thats an STI driver for you

 

Yeah that's for sure man. I should put my wife in Crown Victoria or something. Oh, then maybe the car wouldn't start because its a FORD. I'd rather go with Town car Limo. J/K

 

Man, cars are some dangerous s***.

 

I'm from Clearwater,FL and know the exact location he is talking about. For all you people who think this is BS... do a search on US19. It is listed as one of the most dangerous highways in the country. I guess this STI driver adds to these statistics.

 

dumb kid + fast car = crash

there's nothing more to it.

 

Actually, it reminded me to be careful to not even *look* like I'm racing some idiot. You could get revved on, or simply move to distance yourself from some moron and they Darwin themselves, but you pay for it. Everybody knows the bizarre crap witnesses pull out of their *****. If you just happen to be accelerating anywhere near a wreck like that, you might find yourself in trouble. Just sayin....