Will the G35 Coupe become timeless?
#16
Originally Posted by DarthStimpy
God people are dumb.
The supra is so over priced it's rediculous.
You can pick up a late model supra in ANY other part of the world for WAY under 20K.
It's has a nice factory setup, but it's ugly as sin. I have no idea why people idolize it so much.
The supra is so over priced it's rediculous.
You can pick up a late model supra in ANY other part of the world for WAY under 20K.
It's has a nice factory setup, but it's ugly as sin. I have no idea why people idolize it so much.
-Chris
#17
Originally Posted by Pwoz
I think if nothing else, there are too many of them for the car to be timeless.
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-Chris
#18
Originally Posted by Pwoz
I think if nothing else, there are too many of them for the car to be timeless.
Sure were a ton of '55-'57 Chevy 150, 210 and Bel Air models, as well as a good number of the '67-'69 Camaro. Those are only two examples of mass-produced cars that have some universal, timeless appeal. Good lines are good lines, regardless of how many are available. Sure, you'll see some clapped-out ones, but that doesn't change the appeal of one that's done right.
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#19
Originally Posted by GT-Ron
Sure were a ton of '55-'57 Chevy 150, 210 and Bel Air models, as well as a good number of the '67-'69 Camaro. Those are only two examples of mass-produced cars that have some universal, timeless appeal. Good lines are good lines, regardless of how many are available. Sure, you'll see some clapped-out ones, but that doesn't change the appeal of one that's done right. ![Wink](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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#20
Originally Posted by G_Spot
Well in regards to the Z vs. the G, the Z has a predecessor to compare to. But the G is coming into it's own for the first time. And yeah, people won't understand it's the American Skyline (as my badging will state
), but it's the first of it's kind.....correct?
It is in fact an overpriced Nissan, but has it's own unique styling.
Early 90's American turbo cars.........TT Grand National?
-Chris
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It is in fact an overpriced Nissan, but has it's own unique styling.
Early 90's American turbo cars.........TT Grand National?
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-Chris
Supra's are cool, but caught too much attention in FATF. Movies have a habit of that (67 Shelby Mustang GT500 AKA Elanore--now built daily by www.uniquemotorsports.com). Most Supra's are built by the average Joe with too much money to spend on HP but not the right mix. I saw a bi-turbo Supra locally that was scary fast on the highway, pushed well over 700 HP, and couldn't break out of the 13's. The old joke that is still true: what does a 300, 600, and 900 HP Supra all have in common? They all run 13's
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The early 90's turbo cars I am talking about are the Pontiac Grand Prix TGP, Sunbird GT (or whatever it was), and the 2.2L/2.5L 8-valve Dodge, Chrysler and Plymouth cars. Read here for more info on the Chrysler turbo cars: http://www.xmission.com/~dempsey/perform/ The Grand National/T-Type/GSX were all mid-late 80's. Those early 90's cars are so badass (ever ran into a turbo Daytona??? LOL) but absolutely respected by so few. Even my previous cars...2001 GTP and 2000 GTP (Pontiac Grand Prix GTP, supercharged with an Eaton M90 and push 240 HP stock) are not respected at all and never will be. Spend a grand on one and you'll get low 13's easy. 11's are common place for stock bottom ends and 9's are possible with a good turbo setup. The motor is bulletproof and lacks only a good transmission, but can be modded so many different ways to be monsters yet no one respects them. I gurantee you 95% of the people here would laugh at one when they rolled up next to it (stock or FI) thinking it's an easy race. Guess what--a couple grand (costing way less than FI for the VQ) and they are running mid to low 12's and would wax you. Kids at the age of 18 can now afford them and the mods and the upkeep (slim to none unless you grenade the tranny doing 200 FT burnouts) and you would never expect the car. I think the GTP should be timeless due to the brute power they have--but hell they don't even get recognition now.
I can say the G does turn heads stock and most people know what they are and respect them greatly (even their power--which is OK but nothing to drop your jaw at). Sadly I just don't think it will last.
#21
Originally Posted by G_Spot
I think since it was the staple car of The Fast and the Furious, and it roasted the Ferrari (not to mention the other Supras with 1,000+ hp) it came to prominance.
-Chris
-Chris
Thinking 355 was that fast to start with.
At the 1000hp mark it's a built engine wiht TENS of thousands in mods, so the starting point is all but meanlingless.
I've seen TONS of American Cars do more with less. BUT they dont get the crazy fan-boy following.
#22
"I think the G35 will be a cool car in 10 years because of the styling, but won't be sitting in national car shows as "all original" and be praised for being stock."
Me neither. They just won't last that long in stock form. It's also not going to happen to any modern car short of an exotic. The only people who will care about an OEM '04 Corvette in 25 years will be the Corvette nuts. Anything after '69 is just a well-kept car and a classic only by technicality.
FWIW, after spending several years in the '55-'57 Chevy circles, it became extremely obvious that there are two different types of old Tri-5 enthusiasts: The OEM ***** and the street rodders. Being on the street-rodder side, I never did understand spending so much time and effort to turn a rust-bucket back to OEM condition. Come on, they looked good but the original mechanicals suck ***. If you happen to find an all original example that's great, but only because they're so F'n rare.
Japanese cars are on a different scale. The only reason an OEM condition car will be favorable is because it hasn't been F'd up by some ignorant kid... ...but chances are high the buyer will modify it himself. But I don't think the author is asking if it will become a classic like one of the Tri-5s. That's simply not going to happen. Very few will last 50 years without disentegrating.![Wink](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Something to consider are "classics" such as the '32 Ford, '33 Chevy, *****'s Coupe, etc. These aren't anything special in stock form, but they provide one hell of a canvas when starting a project. I can find pics of these cars that most of us would drool over, yet the OEM design would turn the heads of only the most hardcore restoration buffs.
Anybody can put the car back to original. It takes a real man to cut it up and turn it into something special.
Me neither. They just won't last that long in stock form. It's also not going to happen to any modern car short of an exotic. The only people who will care about an OEM '04 Corvette in 25 years will be the Corvette nuts. Anything after '69 is just a well-kept car and a classic only by technicality.
FWIW, after spending several years in the '55-'57 Chevy circles, it became extremely obvious that there are two different types of old Tri-5 enthusiasts: The OEM ***** and the street rodders. Being on the street-rodder side, I never did understand spending so much time and effort to turn a rust-bucket back to OEM condition. Come on, they looked good but the original mechanicals suck ***. If you happen to find an all original example that's great, but only because they're so F'n rare.
Japanese cars are on a different scale. The only reason an OEM condition car will be favorable is because it hasn't been F'd up by some ignorant kid... ...but chances are high the buyer will modify it himself. But I don't think the author is asking if it will become a classic like one of the Tri-5s. That's simply not going to happen. Very few will last 50 years without disentegrating.
![Wink](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Something to consider are "classics" such as the '32 Ford, '33 Chevy, *****'s Coupe, etc. These aren't anything special in stock form, but they provide one hell of a canvas when starting a project. I can find pics of these cars that most of us would drool over, yet the OEM design would turn the heads of only the most hardcore restoration buffs.
Anybody can put the car back to original. It takes a real man to cut it up and turn it into something special.
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#23
FWIW, after spending several years in the '55-'57 Chevy circles, it became extremely obvious that there are two different types of old Tri-5 enthusiasts: The OEM ***** and the street rodders. Being on the street-rodder side, I never did understand spending so much time and effort to turn a rust-bucket back to OEM condition. Come on, they looked good but the original mechanicals suck ***. If you happen to find an all original example that's great, but only because they're so F'n rare.
I guess I should have further elaborated. They are not going to sit in a car show stock or modified and have a crowd of people around it except for the few thousand that owned one and loved it at some point. Like it or not we are not normal...most normal people consider them cars that get them from point A to point B while being stylish and sporty. There are only few that modify them.
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Originally Posted by G_Spot
So with all this being stated, basically the only reason the Supra is coveted is because of a movie (along with Eleanor)?
#26
Originally Posted by G_Spot
So with all this being stated, basically the only reason the Supra is coveted is because of a movie (along with Eleanor)?
Thanx for all your opinions. This is EXACTLY what I was looking for
-Chris
Thanx for all your opinions. This is EXACTLY what I was looking for
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-Chris
A) Functional
B) Good looking
I don't know if that was 100% it. The Supra following happened before the movie no doubt...but probably got alot of fan boys into it. Then again, that movie made being an import owner OK. I don't remember fart cans before the movie...do you?
#30
Depends on what 'Classic' means to you.
Classic like the 240Z? Not likely
Classic as in 246GT Dino or an Austin? Don't think so
Classic similar to the KPGC110? Likely. Then again, majority of people even on this board wouldn't know what the KPGC110 was.
It'll be a classic Infiniti though. People will remember the G35 just as people still remember the first Infiniti Q45....... For people who actually know how to spell 'Infiniti' correctly anyhow.
Classic like the 240Z? Not likely
Classic as in 246GT Dino or an Austin? Don't think so
Classic similar to the KPGC110? Likely. Then again, majority of people even on this board wouldn't know what the KPGC110 was.
It'll be a classic Infiniti though. People will remember the G35 just as people still remember the first Infiniti Q45....... For people who actually know how to spell 'Infiniti' correctly anyhow.