300 hp rw drive cars SUCK in the snow!
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12-01-2005, 04:03 AM
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I wasn't putting down the G... and I'm not retarded lol. I grew up where we have had to cancel the 4th of July parade because of SNOW... I'm not new to snow, and have drivin in it ALL my life.
I always mock people who can't drive in snow and drive like 5 miles an hour on a straightaway in a heavy frost.
But this was different. All summer people have been asking me what I was going to do when it snowed this winter but I just kind of laughed it off and said "drive like I always do".... and had just decided to keep my summer tires on and see if I could manage without getting winter tires on like I have on my other cars.
However, 2 days ago when we had our first heavy snow, I drove slowly to the stop sign on packed snow right beside my house and absolutely COULD NOT move... I actually slid sideways into the curb. I actually laughed my butt off. The funny thing is I can drive in reverse perfectly fine so I just backed right back into my parking lot. I think if they let you drive around town in reverse I would do ok hehe... I've drivin plenty of both rw drive and fw drive cars and you can't tell me that rw drive cars do better in the snow than front wheel drive.
However, overall, I blame the tires and will probably pick up some new snow tires tomorrow... provided I can make it into town. It's snowed 5 fresh inches in the last 3 hours and is still snowing like crazy outside right now.
I always mock people who can't drive in snow and drive like 5 miles an hour on a straightaway in a heavy frost.
But this was different. All summer people have been asking me what I was going to do when it snowed this winter but I just kind of laughed it off and said "drive like I always do".... and had just decided to keep my summer tires on and see if I could manage without getting winter tires on like I have on my other cars.
However, 2 days ago when we had our first heavy snow, I drove slowly to the stop sign on packed snow right beside my house and absolutely COULD NOT move... I actually slid sideways into the curb. I actually laughed my butt off. The funny thing is I can drive in reverse perfectly fine so I just backed right back into my parking lot. I think if they let you drive around town in reverse I would do ok hehe... I've drivin plenty of both rw drive and fw drive cars and you can't tell me that rw drive cars do better in the snow than front wheel drive.
However, overall, I blame the tires and will probably pick up some new snow tires tomorrow... provided I can make it into town. It's snowed 5 fresh inches in the last 3 hours and is still snowing like crazy outside right now.
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12-01-2005, 04:19 PM
TireRack article - the numbers don't lie
Potenzas vs. Blizzaks. Read about it...
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/..._tire_type.jsp
Blizzaks on ice can accelerate to 60' in 4.5 seconds,
All-Seasons 6.6 seconds,
Potenza summers take 8.3 seconds!!!
Which one would you rather be driving with in snow and ice? I just put blizzaks on my G35 - and am ready for the first real snow.
Previously - I've had Dunlop Winter Sports on a '99 RWD BMW 328i -- they are life-savers. All the safety-electronics in the world are worthless without traction.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/..._tire_type.jsp
Blizzaks on ice can accelerate to 60' in 4.5 seconds,
All-Seasons 6.6 seconds,
Potenza summers take 8.3 seconds!!!
Which one would you rather be driving with in snow and ice? I just put blizzaks on my G35 - and am ready for the first real snow.
Previously - I've had Dunlop Winter Sports on a '99 RWD BMW 328i -- they are life-savers. All the safety-electronics in the world are worthless without traction.
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#37
12-01-2005, 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by Strider_GTS
I wasn't putting down the G... and I'm not retarded lol. I grew up where we have had to cancel the 4th of July parade because of SNOW... I'm not new to snow, and have drivin in it ALL my life.
I always mock people who can't drive in snow and drive like 5 miles an hour on a straightaway in a heavy frost.
But this was different. All summer people have been asking me what I was going to do when it snowed this winter but I just kind of laughed it off and said "drive like I always do".... and had just decided to keep my summer tires on and see if I could manage without getting winter tires on like I have on my other cars.
However, 2 days ago when we had our first heavy snow, I drove slowly to the stop sign on packed snow right beside my house and absolutely COULD NOT move... I actually slid sideways into the curb. I actually laughed my butt off. The funny thing is I can drive in reverse perfectly fine so I just backed right back into my parking lot. I think if they let you drive around town in reverse I would do ok hehe... I've drivin plenty of both rw drive and fw drive cars and you can't tell me that rw drive cars do better in the snow than front wheel drive.
However, overall, I blame the tires and will probably pick up some new snow tires tomorrow... provided I can make it into town. It's snowed 5 fresh inches in the last 3 hours and is still snowing like crazy outside right now.
I always mock people who can't drive in snow and drive like 5 miles an hour on a straightaway in a heavy frost.
But this was different. All summer people have been asking me what I was going to do when it snowed this winter but I just kind of laughed it off and said "drive like I always do".... and had just decided to keep my summer tires on and see if I could manage without getting winter tires on like I have on my other cars.
However, 2 days ago when we had our first heavy snow, I drove slowly to the stop sign on packed snow right beside my house and absolutely COULD NOT move... I actually slid sideways into the curb. I actually laughed my butt off. The funny thing is I can drive in reverse perfectly fine so I just backed right back into my parking lot. I think if they let you drive around town in reverse I would do ok hehe... I've drivin plenty of both rw drive and fw drive cars and you can't tell me that rw drive cars do better in the snow than front wheel drive.
However, overall, I blame the tires and will probably pick up some new snow tires tomorrow... provided I can make it into town. It's snowed 5 fresh inches in the last 3 hours and is still snowing like crazy outside right now.
No offense, but it makes little difference how many winters you have driven in before. The entire point here is that you have been driving on *all season* tires in the past, and now on your new car you have *summer performance* tires on. The point here is that *any* car anywhere at all that has summer performance tires on (fwd, rwd, awd, 4wd, whatever) would be completly unsafe to drive in snow | sleet | ice.
Summer performance tires are designed to move water right out of the way to get to the grippy pavement, which is great for dry and wet conditions. Now, when you start slinging snow out of the way, only to get to more snow, well, where is your traction supposed to come from? Snow tires pack in the snow (see the deep treads), and that is why they can move you 10000x better through the snow.
I say chalk it up as a lesson learned, and be thankful you didnt crack up your G like many others have (doing the same exact thing, so dont feel bad).
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#39
12-01-2005, 08:53 PM
Originally Posted by gettaluvr
put on snow tires it will be better, but still sucks, even civic can drive faster then me in snow.
I just put Michelin Pilot Alpin PA2's on my G Coupe and it's a night/day difference. My ride smokes through the snow now! I also happen to enjoy the slight squirreliness (is that a word?) of a RWD car in snow. Why drive a car like the G35c/s/x if you don't enjoy the ride?
Think the G's 54/46% weight distribution helps with traction at the rear wheels? I've driven a heavier RWD Lincoln Mark VII LSC w/ Blizzaks that had worse traction.
~Ringer
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I have like 3 friends in various civics and it's true that they do actually preform quite well in the snow... nearly as well as my Celica GTS did, and for the last week I've taken quite a bit of crap from them as I ride in their passenger seats around town... but I take consolation in reminding them about the hours staring at my tail-lights through the mountain twisties here in Oregon. It's one of the few moments where I'll let their little 1.4 liter egos have a one-up on me... I just bite my tounge and wait for spring. 
Update:
We got 10 inches of snow last night and are forcast to have another 10 tonight. I'm not talking about few inches a year like most of you have to deal with. Ideally I would just go buy an XTerra or some other snow-fairing vehicle, but insurance prices would eat me alive at this point in time. The lines at Les Shwab start at 630 in the morning and if you aren't in there before 7:30 you won't get your snow tires on that day. It looks like I'll be bumming rides for the next week or two.
Update:
We got 10 inches of snow last night and are forcast to have another 10 tonight. I'm not talking about few inches a year like most of you have to deal with. Ideally I would just go buy an XTerra or some other snow-fairing vehicle, but insurance prices would eat me alive at this point in time. The lines at Les Shwab start at 630 in the morning and if you aren't in there before 7:30 you won't get your snow tires on that day. It looks like I'll be bumming rides for the next week or two.
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12-02-2005, 08:51 AM
I'm not sure why you keep assuming we're not dealing with the same amount of snow so we don't understand your situation. Check the locations on some of the people who have posted in this thread. Toronto, Calgary....Winnipeg! I drove my G coupe through the Sierra's last year on a weekend where they got 26 inches of snow. I drive my sedan here and we get plenty of snow. You just need winter tires. Next year you'll know to go in advance.
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12-02-2005, 10:14 AM
Originally Posted by Strider_GTS
The lines at Les Shwab start at 630 in the morning and if you aren't in there before 7:30 you won't get your snow tires on that day. It looks like I'll be bumming rides for the next week or two.
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12-02-2005, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Strider_GTS
Wow... I just can't go anywhere!
I'm riding around in my friend's cars until the snow melts basically. This car is just useless! It's horrible. I REALLY should have gotten some snow tires put on, though I think most of the problem is the fact that the car is RW drive.
I'm riding around in my friend's cars until the snow melts basically. This car is just useless! It's horrible. I REALLY should have gotten some snow tires put on, though I think most of the problem is the fact that the car is RW drive.
Most of your problems are from the "high performance summer tires" these tires were never made for snow. Granted a RWD car is not as good as a FWD car but a RWD car can normally be driven without a whole lot of trouble in snow 4 to 6" deep if equiped with the correct tires. Many people here have driven their G's in the snow with winter tires and have had few problems.
300 hp really doesn't mean anytning, it how you apply the power that counts.
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Originally Posted by madchef
Seems like this is the first experience with summer performance tires for a lot of owners.
I think Infiniti should be at the very least telling these people that the tires are useless in the snow. I remember that the M3 CSL tires were so close to slicks, that you had to sign a waiver saying you knew not to drive in any bad conditions
I think Infiniti should be at the very least telling these people that the tires are useless in the snow. I remember that the M3 CSL tires were so close to slicks, that you had to sign a waiver saying you knew not to drive in any bad conditions
Actually thats the first thing the saleman told me when I looked at the car (I bought min this january). He said "I hope you don't plan to drive this car in the snow with these tires becuase it won't go anywhere"