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why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

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Old 08-07-2003 | 04:55 PM
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why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

i been readin that a lot of u are gettin in the 13's...6mt i kno are faster but by a whole second? track temp was 87 degrees, i used tip mode, left everything inside...how do u guys hit 13's? wats tha secret

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Old 08-07-2003 | 05:45 PM
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Re: why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

Even your mph is a little slow.

First thing would be to praction your 60', shave 0.2 on the 60' and you will be 0.4 lower at the end of the track.

Was it humid that day, any wind?...and I don't know if that track is considered a slow or fast.

 
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Old 08-07-2003 | 06:36 PM
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Re: why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

Humidity about 30%, light breeze, dunno if the track is considered fast but its in sacramento( in the valley, low elevation, dry heat)

I also have injen intake and 19" rims, so could those have adverse affects?

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Old 08-07-2003 | 06:42 PM
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19s might hurt a tiny bit but not enough to make a real difference. How was your launch?

 
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Old 08-07-2003 | 06:58 PM
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Who's getting 13s? A stock 350Z-Track on a good day cracks 13.9. A 6MT G35, at 300 pounds heavier, should be approximately 0.3 seconds slower, so call 14.2 a very good run. Your numbers aren't far off my stock 5AT's without torque-braking, except that my trap speeds are much slower than yours. I averaged around 94.5, but had better times than you. I did have higher 1/8 mile speeds, strangely. I suspect the fact that I usually shift while in the box screws it up. I should probably just let it wind out a little over the redline.

Anyway, the main culprit on your slip is the 60' time ("I1"). The 350Z's that put up 13s have 60' times around 2.0, sometimes 1.9. You're giving up a good .37 seconds there, which would put you at at least 14.3 if you could do a 2.0 launch. The reason you're slow is because you're not dropping your clutch at high enough rpms, because you don't have a clutch. The closest you can approximate to this with an AT is holding down your brake with your left foot while pressing the gas with the right (called power-braking or torque-braking). As you might expect, this is NOT good for your transmission, but the end result is a much faster launch and quicker access to the G35's powerband. I experimented a couple times with trying to do this for only a split second before the light (to minimize the duration of the strain), but the car seizes up like it wants to vomit. A timeslip just isn't worth that to me.

Other than that, there are little race prep things you can do: turn off VDC, remove the engine cover, remove the spare, make sure all the stuff draining power is turned off, lower the pressure in the rear wheels and increase the pressure in the front wheels, only run on a one-quarter tank, etc. None of that is going to get you to 14.2. 14.6 is pretty much how fast a stock AT Coupe is if you're at a light, release the brake, and mash the gas. Best I ever did stock without torque-braking was 14.56. My best 60' is still a 2.31. That's the difference.

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Old 08-07-2003 | 07:13 PM
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Re: why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

JD what does taking the engine cover off do for performance?


 
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Old 08-08-2003 | 12:12 AM
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Re: why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

Nothing besides making the car lighter.

 
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Old 08-08-2003 | 12:15 AM
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Re: why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

makes your car 12 ounces lighter [img]/w3timages/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
doesnt do too much, its good if you are racing around a track where engine heat could be an issue
basically which the cover off, the engine should get a little more breathing room inside and cool it a few degrees.

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Old 08-08-2003 | 12:45 AM
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Re: why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

thanx for the tips JDMan

Those of u who ran in the 13's can u post ur timeslips up? i kno theres ppl who did 13.8's @ 101mph, etc.
Lookin at my 3 timeslipz i can see wat ur sayin now bout the 60' time,prolly sucked coz i didnt let any air out of the tires (35psi) n i didnt do a burnout to warm em up..i did do a lil torque breakin but only like up to 3 rpm... i ran the entire 1/4 up to 3rd gear only so i was at redline at the end of 1/4...is that ideal to shift @ redline? @ max torque? or max hp?



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Old 08-08-2003 | 01:26 AM
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Actually the temp difference with the cover off is even more negligible than the weight lost in terms of effective performance.

 
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Old 08-08-2003 | 02:35 AM
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Re: why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

My friend with a Z ran 13.9 on base package.. no mods and AT TOO... He has timeslips to prove it.

heres the secret:

Must run on a day with decent average weather. Remove spare tire and jack, deflate tires to roughly 25psi, and most important: GET A GOOD LAUNCH. Launch around 2200 RPM or so.. The launch will be the difference maker

GOOD LUCK on your next try :P




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Old 08-08-2003 | 02:37 AM
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Re: why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

a manual would be faster
do you still have the GTR emblem on?

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Old 08-08-2003 | 12:22 PM
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I wouldn't recommend a torque converter for a daily driver. Launching at every single intersection and stop sign has to get old. Nevermind sitting in stop and go traffic, or inching into a tight parking space. Are those things rigged so that they have a lower stall speed for Reverse?

I thought someone had dynoed a tiny bit better without the engine cover on. It's really just common sense. I mean, if you're going to spend $250 for a CAI that lowers your air intake point 6 inches because the air is "colder" down there, it's kind of silly to put a plastic enclosure around the plenum to make sure that all the heat is trapped around the location your "cold" air goes to just before detonation. It shouldn't make much difference in daily driving, but at a dragstrip there's a period of time when your car is just idling and creeping forward in the pre-stage area, and that's going to make a (small) difference as to what temperature your plenum is going to get off the line at. It's not going to shave a tenth of a second off or anything, but it can only help. Some people actually put a bag of ice on top of it while waiting. I'm not sure it does enough to offset the added weight from carrying a big bag of ice in the car.

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Old 08-08-2003 | 12:37 PM
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Re: why is my 1/4 e.t. slow?

G35 Coupe 5AT

14.2 @ 1/4 Mile in Palmdale in Manumatic mode

14.6 @ 1/4 Mile in Palmdale in AUTOMATIC mode

Held brake gave it gas until 2600rpms and took off with no skidding what so ever w/ VDC off.

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