G35 Coupe V35 2003 - 07 Discussion about the 1st Generation V35 G35 Coupe

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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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why are manuals more expensive?

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looking to get a g35c i was lookin at the pricing i def want a manual. so everytime i did a search on autotrader and such engines i saw the prices being between 23-29,ooo. so i though that was the median price. i did a search out of curiousity with manuals and lots more popped up for like 18-26,000. thats 5 grand less! manuals are suppose to be cheaper. what gives?

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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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they come with the sports suspension and 19"
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Well, we need more information. What year(s) are you looking at? I’m not sure about the 03-04’s but the 05 6MT came with the sport package and tires. That alone will cost you about $2250. So, it started out more expensive but is less if you decided to add that to the 5AT. Now, the 6MT engine also came with 18 more ponies. However, the 5AT had the option of Intellikey. In the end, it depends on options. I’m looking at the 06 and the base price difference is only $600 more for the 6MT. So, it really is less if you were to take in to perspective that it included the $2250 sport package and tires. Subtract that out, and it would be like $1650 less then for the 5AT. However, the sport package and tires are not an option for the 6MT (it is standard option and can’t be ordered without it). Hope that helps.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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I think that I read somewhere that more AT's are made than 6MT's. So, supply and demand may play into the pricing, as well.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Don't they weigh more too
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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lookin at 03-04
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Manuals are more scarce than the a/t's for the g35. supply and demand just like what was said aboved.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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03-04 also offered brembos with the manual...larger wheels, sport suspension, better tires...more fun.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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what mephistomyhero said. Equipped similarly, the AT is more expensive. The "standard" peformance package in the 6MT is what makes it more expensive. Price it with the same equipement and the AT is more expensive.

No supply and demand IMO, this is MSRP or invoice costs... supply and demand in this situation will only come into play with dealer inflated pricing above msrp or invoice. The factory doesn't price the 6mt higher cuz it it produces less of it. (not in this situation).

They can probably price it higher stating that the new 6mt's have a higher output engine (rev-up). But luckily for us, they don't. Maybe it is a swap for the brembos... can't have it all.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by andy2434
I think that I read somewhere that more AT's are made than 6MT's. So, supply and demand may play into the pricing, as well.

Yup. I think only 15% of coupes are 6MTs, which in 2004 was only 1800 if the info I found is correct. Add to that sport suspension, in the 03-04s Brembos, and DEMAND . I would never own an auto coupe
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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All of what the above is true. However, I would say for the used market, you will have to consider what equipment the coupes come with. The used market is pretty tricky. When you said you looked at the used cars with just the 6MT, the average is higher then if you added in the 5AT? There are so many variables to this that I wouldn’t even know where to start. I searched results could be 20 5AT with no sport packages and tires that it will bring down the average prices as a whole. Hell, the mileage could make a difference. Maybe there are only 5 6MTs and 20 5AT. Should I go on? I think you get the point. But, if you were to look at only, let’s say, 4 coupes which comprises of 2 5ATs and 2 6MTs, then this is where a good comparison comes in. Anyways, I think it’s true that 6MTs demand a higher price since they were a lot less of them and that more would want them in the used market (although I’m not exactly sure, I’m just guessing by how hard it was to get my 6MT in the middle of last summer when there were so many 5ATs). I say, if you had my scenario above with only 4 cars, then I would say the prices would be about equal (keeping everything else constant, including the 5AT having the sport package and tires). When I say tricky, I mean that once the depreciation kicks in, 2 thousand in options (when you bought the car) will add very little to the used market (although I think the Navigation is a nice option that may yield a higher price if you sold your car with it, but not by much). Blah, I’m babbling on. I just hope I get a good price when I trade my in for a Porsche Cayman S in a few years
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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78% of all g's are automatic. 6mt is harder to get used. Supply and demand.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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Correction... my previous statement only applies to new cars comparing AT and MT.

Used market has a lot to do w/ supply and demand. Look at the resale of Honda civics and accords. So many buy them used and new that the resale on those things are ridiculously high... but again... i have to agree w/ mephistomyhero, too many variables to consider, history of car, mileage, condition of wearables, etc... Hell, even color adds or detracts value from the resale value. A popular color now may not be so popular a few years down the road. You can not compare the extremes of the price range of a vehicle in used conditions.

In any case, my point being, my previous post doesn't really pertain to the used market. Find the value of the car your looking for, compare to sale price, have a mechanic check it out, you check it out... if your happy, buy it, if not look more. If you want M/T, then look for the best valued MT for your taste, don't compare it to an A/T and vice versa (or any other factor that is most important to you like $$$ or options). It'll save you a lot of headache in the end.
 

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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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im glad i have my 04.5 6MT.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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I think the majority of the g35c market would rather have an auto. I'm figuring since there's instructions on how to load 2 golf bags in the trunk, the g35c is geared towards an older market (as opposed to the 350z for instance). My dealer told me only about 15% of the coupes are stick, but then again dealers are often full of crap. Take it with a grain of salt.
 
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