is it really that heavy for an 04 6mt sedan w/leahter? i never weighed at a weitht station, has anyone actually done this?

i think its more like 3500 pounds

ok, directly from the tag:
GVWR/PNBV 4,500
GAWR/PNBE FR 2,120 RR 2401

i know that different modle/options will have differnt weight numbers, so, what conversion is needed to reflect true lbs for the above?

That's gross vehicle weight (ie fully loaded with 5 people, gear, etc).

Maybe with 4 dead bodies in the trunk.

got it........makes sense.........
thanks.

It's like 34XX lbs.

if it was 4500lbs, we would need at least a freaking v8 to haul ...

If it were 4500 lbs I would not own one. That would be a sign of bad engineering to me.

if anything, bad labeling of information........i knew it can't that heavy, was just wondering how they got that number...............
imaging the power to weight ratio.......4500/"260"=17.30 !!

It's not bad labeling, it's the GVWR. GROSS vehicle weight rating, meaning the max weight of the car + people + gear. This number is not and never has been the curb weight. The math works like this:

GVWR - curb weight (wet) = cargo capacity, including passengers.

If the GVWR is 4500 and the curb weight is, say, 3250, the most you could load into the car as far as people and gear goes is 1250lb.

If you load four people that weigh 220lb each, you have 370lb left for cargo and, if equipped, weight on a trailer hitch.

Hope this helps clear up the confusion.

allright Hogan,,if train A is traveling 75mph and train B is.........j/k!

great explanation.......makes perfect sense.....