Sedan is Motor Trend Car of The Year for 2006?
#62
12-04-2006 | 04:24 PM
#63
12-04-2006 | 04:26 PM
INCORRECT. It was fine before ANYONE WAS TRYING TO SEE THE ERROR IN YOUR LOGIC. I'm not the problem. I'm the one FIXING the problem.
Originally Posted by G35_TX
LOL! Like I said, it was fine before you came in here. I am the only one backing up everything I am saying as usual. 
Dream on Jefferey. You are always the problem and always you try to deny it.
Dream on Jefferey. You are always the problem and always you try to deny it.
#64
12-04-2006 | 04:27 PM
#65
12-04-2006 | 04:27 PM
#67
12-04-2006 | 04:30 PM
Yes, Toyota has more problems. RELATIVE TO WHAT IT EXPERIENCED BEFORE. That doesn't = Toyota having big problems.
They are the # 3 largest automaker. They ARE going to have larger numbers of problems/recalls than smaller automakers. BUT IN NECESSARILY RELATIVE TO THE # OF CARS PRODUCED. IT'S HOW THEY HANDLE their problems. Which is far superior than the other two big automakers ahead of them in production numbers. Ford and GM.
It's all pretty much explained in the first article I posted. But it unfortunately gets buried in the trival unverified blog and forum compliants. Hardly hard proof.
They are the # 3 largest automaker. They ARE going to have larger numbers of problems/recalls than smaller automakers. BUT IN NECESSARILY RELATIVE TO THE # OF CARS PRODUCED. IT'S HOW THEY HANDLE their problems. Which is far superior than the other two big automakers ahead of them in production numbers. Ford and GM.
It's all pretty much explained in the first article I posted. But it unfortunately gets buried in the trival unverified blog and forum compliants. Hardly hard proof.
#68
12-04-2006 | 04:32 PM
Okay one last post.
1) They are the #2 automaker. Get it right.
2) They are considered the recall king now out of any other manufacture. See post above or here: "Toyota has become the recall king, something the company never had to wrestle with in the past as it won most of the JD Powers and other car quality surveys," wrote Wall Street analyst Douglas A. McIntyre. But, as the company's market share has ballooned in the U.S., Toyota had to ramp up production for North America and quality seems to have suffered," he wrote.
EOD
1) They are the #2 automaker. Get it right.
2) They are considered the recall king now out of any other manufacture. See post above or here: "Toyota has become the recall king, something the company never had to wrestle with in the past as it won most of the JD Powers and other car quality surveys," wrote Wall Street analyst Douglas A. McIntyre. But, as the company's market share has ballooned in the U.S., Toyota had to ramp up production for North America and quality seems to have suffered," he wrote.
EOD
#70
12-04-2006 | 04:37 PM
Does this look like a maker that's NOT handling it's quality problems?? I think NOT
Consumers don't seem bothered by a rash of recalls.
Here's a quiz: a carmaker last month recalled 1 million vehicles worldwide. In 2005 it recalled 2.2 million vehicles in the U.S., 10% of its total number of cars on the road here and twice the number it recalled the year before. Who is this bumbling manufacturer? No, not General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ), but Toyota (nyse: TM - news - people ), whose vehicles jump off the lot because consumers swear by their quality. Just a few weeks ago Toyota again dominated consumer polls in the annual J.D. Power & Associates initial quality study.
Why this disconnect? The answer says something about the nature of recalls and how Toyota handles them. For one thing, the spike in recalls stems from Toyota's own efficiency. Rather than reengineering parts, it shares components among many models. So when something goes wrong, as it did recently with the steering shaft on the Prius and ten other (non-U.S.) models, the recall number is high.
Toyota, moreover, has perfected the art of detecting and fixing quality problems early, often before customers even notice them. "What we tend to see is that if a customer receives a recall notice before their car exhibits any symptoms, they don't see it as a problem," says Chance Parker of J.D. Power. It counts as a recall, for sure, but the Power surveys are gauging consumers' level of satisfaction. And Toyota knows how to keep customers satisfied. It gives its dealers plenty of leeway to fix customer complaints even postwarranty--by some accounts as much as $3,000 per vehicle.
Here's a quiz: a carmaker last month recalled 1 million vehicles worldwide. In 2005 it recalled 2.2 million vehicles in the U.S., 10% of its total number of cars on the road here and twice the number it recalled the year before. Who is this bumbling manufacturer? No, not General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ), but Toyota (nyse: TM - news - people ), whose vehicles jump off the lot because consumers swear by their quality. Just a few weeks ago Toyota again dominated consumer polls in the annual J.D. Power & Associates initial quality study.
Why this disconnect? The answer says something about the nature of recalls and how Toyota handles them. For one thing, the spike in recalls stems from Toyota's own efficiency. Rather than reengineering parts, it shares components among many models. So when something goes wrong, as it did recently with the steering shaft on the Prius and ten other (non-U.S.) models, the recall number is high.
Toyota, moreover, has perfected the art of detecting and fixing quality problems early, often before customers even notice them. "What we tend to see is that if a customer receives a recall notice before their car exhibits any symptoms, they don't see it as a problem," says Chance Parker of J.D. Power. It counts as a recall, for sure, but the Power surveys are gauging consumers' level of satisfaction. And Toyota knows how to keep customers satisfied. It gives its dealers plenty of leeway to fix customer complaints even postwarranty--by some accounts as much as $3,000 per vehicle.
Last edited by Jeff92se; 12-04-2006 at 04:44 PM.
#72
01-05-2007 | 05:27 PM
From NHTSA website at:
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/pr...in/results.cfm
Lookup #10173766 at the following link
Death caused now by the transmission failing
#74
01-05-2007 | 11:56 PM
Originally Posted by DP03
I haven't seen side by side tests yet, but with it's new 6 speed auto, I'd be very surprised if the Camry did not match or better the auto G. And the SE model should be in the same handling class as well. Just a guess....