Fixed my roaring (feathering) tire issue on my sedan, run the tires backwards
#46
08-09-2007, 10:27 AM
#47
08-09-2007, 11:02 AM
Originally Posted by Neal376
yea, now try to make an emergency lane change 
Even the best tires will give up the ghost if you're going too fast for conditions and traction control and stability control can't save you either.
Last edited by DaveB; 08-09-2007 at 11:04 AM.
#48
08-09-2007, 11:12 AM
Originally Posted by cturnbull802
update:
drove home from work in the rain, not heavy rain but steady rain. no noticeable difference in handling what so ever.
drove home from work in the rain, not heavy rain but steady rain. no noticeable difference in handling what so ever.
#49
08-09-2007, 12:02 PM
Interesting... I have the same Avon tires with the same noise/roaring issues. The tires have approx. 20k on them and I've considering going with new tires, but I guess I'll give this a try. These tires developed the horrible roaring sound at about 13k-15k miles.
Do I have to dismount them or can I just flip the tires around to the opposite side?
Do I have to dismount them or can I just flip the tires around to the opposite side?
Originally Posted by DaveB
I'm one of the few sedan owners that apparently is experiencing a feathering problem. The problem didn't occur until I put on a set of 215/55R17 Avon M550s (directional tires). The roaring was really driving me nuts. My original plan was to yank the tires off the rim and have the feathered edges pushed to the outside of the rim and then get an alignment to bring the toe in to max. After doing some research about directional tires, I learned that it is entirely fine to run directional tires backwards. The only ill effect is that wet traction in standing water is compromised slightly because more water will be pushed to the front of the tire instead of channeled outwards therefore you need to be more cautiously in wet weather. Also, after 10K miles, the advantages of a directional tires (ie better water channeling) has most likely disappeared because of the reduced thread. My Avons have about 13K miles. I never drive fast in the rain so I'm not worried.
Toyo and Michelin actually recommend running the directional tires backwards to knock down the feathering. They also recommend getting an alignment (duh).
Today I flopped my tires (left rear to right rear and right front to left front). To my amazement, the roaring is TOTALLY gone. Next up, an alignment.
Toyo and Michelin actually recommend running the directional tires backwards to knock down the feathering. They also recommend getting an alignment (duh).
Today I flopped my tires (left rear to right rear and right front to left front). To my amazement, the roaring is TOTALLY gone. Next up, an alignment.
Last edited by ajg35; 08-09-2007 at 12:08 PM.
#50
08-09-2007, 12:40 PM
Originally Posted by ajg35
Interesting... I have the same Avon tires with the same noise/roaring issues. The tires have approx. 20k on them and I've considering going with new tires, but I guess I'll give this a try. These tires developed the horrible roaring sound at about 13k-15k miles.
Do I have to dismount them or can I just flip the tires around to the opposite side?
Do I have to dismount them or can I just flip the tires around to the opposite side?
One thing is for certain, I won't buy these tires again. The tires are really nice, but thier design teamed with our suspension design just isn't a good match. My Avons got noisy at around 5K miles. I rotated them front to back and the noise came back within 4-5K miles. All the noise is coming from the front. It was most annoying when slowing down from 35mph to 0mph.
#51
08-09-2007, 01:08 PM
#52
08-09-2007, 02:26 PM
#53
08-09-2007, 02:30 PM
Originally Posted by ajg35
I'll give it a try... Yeah, i noticed the low speeds, but mine are terrible at highway speeds as well. It did start in the front, but once I rotated them the noise was in the rear but then the front started again, so all four are trashed. The tires were great for the first few months!
#54
08-09-2007, 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
We are all waiting for the LAST 13 links we asked YOU for Russ.
Seriously, you are the LAST person on this planet Earth to be asking for links for any proof.
Seriously, you are the LAST person on this planet Earth to be asking for links for any proof.
Oh Jeffy, we post links for you in the past, you just choose to ignore them.
Wow, amazing, guess DaveB had to call in the recruits as usual. lol.
Last edited by G35_TX; 08-09-2007 at 02:42 PM.
#55
08-09-2007, 02:46 PM
Originally Posted by G35_TX
Anything that can cause a safety issue for someones life and Michelin recommends it, then I want to see the link with this info. It's obvious he lied. I am waiting on a email back from Michelin as I type this with this information.
Oh Jeffy, we post links for you in the past, you just choose to ignore them.
1) "I don't have time to post links. Even though I've wasted like 10 posts being retarded in this thread already"
2) "Search, I've posted them way back in like 1932" "But I can't seem to find them so I guess you have to find them" Apparently if you can't find your own posts, we are somehow able to magicly find them.
Wow, amazing, guess DaveB had to call in the recruits as usual. lol.
Last edited by Jeff92se; 08-09-2007 at 02:50 PM.
#56
08-09-2007, 02:50 PM
As usual, Jeff causing problems. I will post it once I receive it back from Michelin.
Oh, sorry, but everyone knows you just ignore the facts and links that people give you. I have posted many for you in the past. You aren't even worth my time.
Others here asked DaveB including myself to post the link where this information is. He refused. So we will just have to prove him wrong once Michelin sends that email out. Dave is a butt buddy with you, and he called you as always.
Oh, sorry, but everyone knows you just ignore the facts and links that people give you. I have posted many for you in the past. You aren't even worth my time.
Others here asked DaveB including myself to post the link where this information is. He refused. So we will just have to prove him wrong once Michelin sends that email out. Dave is a butt buddy with you, and he called you as always.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Post it
Who is "we"?? I asked YOU. EXACTLY WHERE ARE THESE "LINKS" you've posted Russ? Where? Exactly?
No Russ. Dave is a friend. I just noted YOU BEING 100% RETARDED AND EVEN MORE HYPOCRITICAL and decided to show everyone why.
Who is "we"?? I asked YOU. EXACTLY WHERE ARE THESE "LINKS" you've posted Russ? Where? Exactly?
No Russ. Dave is a friend. I just noted YOU BEING 100% RETARDED AND EVEN MORE HYPOCRITICAL and decided to show everyone why.
#57
08-09-2007, 02:51 PM
Who is "we"?? I asked YOU. EXACTLY WHERE ARE THESE "LINKS" you've posted Russ? Where? Exactly? Everyone! Just wait for Russ' reply. I don't even have to wait. I already know it.............
1) "I don't have time to post links. Even though I've wasted like 10 posts being retarded in this thread already"
2) "Search, I've posted them way back in like 1932" "But I can't seem to find them so I guess you have to find them" Apparently if you can't find your own posts, we are somehow able to magicly find them.
Russ, go back into the fantasy land from which you seem to live and leave reality to the rest of the adults. k?
1) "I don't have time to post links. Even though I've wasted like 10 posts being retarded in this thread already"
2) "Search, I've posted them way back in like 1932" "But I can't seem to find them so I guess you have to find them" Apparently if you can't find your own posts, we are somehow able to magicly find them.
Originally Posted by G35_TX
As usual, Jeff causing problems. I will post it once I receive it back from Michelin.
Oh, sorry, but everyone knows you just ignore the facts and links that people give you. I have posted many for you in the past. You aren't even worth my time.
Others here asked DaveB including myself to post the link where this information is. He refused. So we will just have to prove him wrong once Michelin sends that email out. Dave is a butt buddy with you, and he called you as always.
Oh, sorry, but everyone knows you just ignore the facts and links that people give you. I have posted many for you in the past. You aren't even worth my time.
Others here asked DaveB including myself to post the link where this information is. He refused. So we will just have to prove him wrong once Michelin sends that email out. Dave is a butt buddy with you, and he called you as always.
#59
08-09-2007, 02:54 PM
Take your personal attacks somewhere else Jeff. You are ruining this topic like usual. Stay on topic.
Nah, you actually need to act like a adult. We are asking for the link where he found this Michelin information. So we are still waiting.
Nah, you actually need to act like a adult. We are asking for the link where he found this Michelin information. So we are still waiting.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Who is "we"?? I asked YOU. EXACTLY WHERE ARE THESE "LINKS" you've posted Russ? Where? Exactly? Everyone! Just wait for Russ' reply. I don't even have to wait. I already know it.............
1) "I don't have time to post links. Even though I've wasted like 10 posts being retarded in this thread already"
2) "Search, I've posted them way back in like 1932" "But I can't seem to find them so I guess you have to find them" Apparently if you can't find your own posts, we are somehow able to magicly find them.
Russ, go back into the fantasy land from which you seem to live and leave reality to the rest of the adults. k?
1) "I don't have time to post links. Even though I've wasted like 10 posts being retarded in this thread already"
2) "Search, I've posted them way back in like 1932" "But I can't seem to find them so I guess you have to find them" Apparently if you can't find your own posts, we are somehow able to magicly find them.
Russ, go back into the fantasy land from which you seem to live and leave reality to the rest of the adults. k?