Fixed my roaring (feathering) tire issue on my sedan, run the tires backwards
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Fixed my roaring (feathering) tire issue on my sedan, run the tires backwards
I'm one of the few sedan owners that apparently is experiencing a feathering problem. The problem didn't occur until I put on a set of 215/55R17 Avon M550s (directional tires). The roaring was really driving me nuts. My original plan was to yank the tires off the rim and have the feathered edges pushed to the outside of the rim and then get an alignment to bring the toe in to max. After doing some research about directional tires, I learned that it is entirely fine to run directional tires backwards. The only ill effect is that wet traction in standing water is compromised slightly because more water will be pushed to the front of the tire instead of channeled outwards therefore you need to be more cautiously in wet weather. Also, after 10K miles, the advantages of a directional tires (ie better water channeling) has most likely disappeared because of the reduced thread. My Avons have about 13K miles. I never drive fast in the rain so I'm not worried.
Toyo and Michelin actually recommend running the directional tires backwards to knock down the feathering. They also recommend getting an alignment (duh).
Today I flopped my tires (left rear to right rear and right front to left front). To my amazement, the roaring is TOTALLY gone. Next up, an alignment.
Toyo and Michelin actually recommend running the directional tires backwards to knock down the feathering. They also recommend getting an alignment (duh).
Today I flopped my tires (left rear to right rear and right front to left front). To my amazement, the roaring is TOTALLY gone. Next up, an alignment.
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be very careful with flipped tires. wet traction is SEVERELY compromised. if you hit a puddle with the direction reversed, the car will slow down as if you slammed on your brakes! the worst is when you hit puddles at an angle.
but anyways, sounds like you solved a great problem. a friend of mine has such a roaring problem as well.
but anyways, sounds like you solved a great problem. a friend of mine has such a roaring problem as well.
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Originally Posted by G35_TX
Dry traction is also compromised as well as steering response. There is a reason why the manufactures do not recommend running tires backwards.
The good news is:
1) The roaring is gone
2) The tires are nice and quiet again
3) Handling is just as good as before. Believe me, I took this car into some seriously hard handling manuvers just to make sure. It's the same as before. Tire temps across the tire are the same too.
BTW, when you getting rid of the Nismo Z? Nissan just announced that the new Z has been postponed a year and that the VQ37 will making it's way into next years (same model) Z. 340+hp vs 306hp, no additional weight. Hmmm.......sounds tempting
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Originally Posted by DaveB
The purpose of directional tires is to channel water/slush away from the tire. The directional design is not for dry weather traction. Some tires use different types of rubber along the tread of the tire (my Avons don't), but I have not changed the overall layout of the tire, I've only changed the direction at which is rolls. I have compromised the wet weather capability of the tire to a degree, however, the tires have over 10K miles and according to everything I've researched, the channeling effect of a directional tire is mostly lost after 50%of the tread is gone. The other thing is I don't drive fast at all in the rain at all. I managed to drive for a year on mostly bald EL42s in torrential Kansas/Georgia/Florida rain and Kansas winters so I'm not too worried about driving on these tires. Anyways, by the time winter hits, the tires will have been rotated and swapped to the intended direction. I'm only doing this to knock down the feathered blocks. Like I said earlier, Toyo and Michilen both recommend running their directional tires backwards to knock down the feathered blocks.
The good news is:
1) The roaring is gone
2) The tires are nice and quiet again
3) Handling is just as good as before. Believe me, I took this car into some seriously hard handling manuvers just to make sure. It's the same as before. Tire temps across the tire are the same too.
BTW, when you getting rid of the Nismo Z? Nissan just announced that the new Z has been postponed a year and that the VQ37 will making it's way into next years (same model) Z. 340+hp vs 306hp, no additional weight. Hmmm.......sounds tempting![Icon38](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/icon38.gif)
The good news is:
1) The roaring is gone
2) The tires are nice and quiet again
3) Handling is just as good as before. Believe me, I took this car into some seriously hard handling manuvers just to make sure. It's the same as before. Tire temps across the tire are the same too.
BTW, when you getting rid of the Nismo Z? Nissan just announced that the new Z has been postponed a year and that the VQ37 will making it's way into next years (same model) Z. 340+hp vs 306hp, no additional weight. Hmmm.......sounds tempting
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Well Dave, all I can say your recommending something that is unsafe for others, and as you can see others are going to try it now. Next thing we know someone gets in a wreck or killed because the tires were mounted backwards, and they come after you.
I suggest edit your post and put a disclaimer in it.
I suggest edit your post and put a disclaimer in it.
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Originally Posted by G35_TX
Well Dave, all I can say your recommending something that is unsafe for others, and as you can see others are going to try it now. Next thing we know someone gets in a wreck or killed because the tires were mounted backwards, and they come after you.
I suggest edit your post and put a disclaimer in it.
I suggest edit your post and put a disclaimer in it.
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