automatics...
#61
#65
You have obviously never driven a manual of have experience with short shifters and different shifting methods. My offer still stands about putting my money where my mouth is, we do it at a track with timed slips. Actually I'm confident enough to wager $500 US dollars on top of the trip expense. Of course you keep failing to read my previous posts so if you ever want to reread it, it is there for you unedited.
I don't think the auto in this car is the end all to automatics. It's just a great automatic for daily use. I've also used it at the strip and the auto-x. I rent tons of cars, SUVs, and trucks for work which means I get to sample lots of autos/automanuals. I can tell you without a doubt, my 03 G's auto is light years ahead of 98% of the autos I've driven. Most are truely slushy, laggy, and Buick-like. The most responsive autos I've driven? They're all from Nissan (Titan, Maxima, Altima, Roque, Murano). The new GM 6ATs are pretty good too and the 6AT in the new F150 is quadruple light years better than the old POS 4AT.
#67
Hey Dave, you know some of the GM and Ford 6ATs are actually the same transmission? They co-designed it. They do put different programming in them though.
And what you said about some cars being quicker with an AT vs a MT, a good example is the Solstice GXP. Autos are quicker. But I can tell you from experience the manual is a blast to drive
And what you said about some cars being quicker with an AT vs a MT, a good example is the Solstice GXP. Autos are quicker. But I can tell you from experience the manual is a blast to drive
#69
He's made some changes to the car and improved the launch. Quickest he's gone is 9.8 @ 149MPH.
Car sounds like an airplane when the turbo spools
#70
That's pretty bold. Have you ever been to the strip before? Everyone thinks they're John Force until they get handed that first slip. I've owned both manual and auto cars over the past 20 years and have raced them all at the strip plus handfuls of other cars. Manuals are significantly harder to get off the line effectively. Riding that fine line between bog and all out wheel spin is pretty hard and takes a careful touch. Most 6MT owners on here struggle to get low 2.2 60 foots. My 5AT cuts mid/low 2.1 60 foots consistently and with barely a chirp from the tires.
I don't think the auto in this car is the end all to automatics. It's just a great automatic for daily use. I've also used it at the strip and the auto-x. I rent tons of cars, SUVs, and trucks for work which means I get to sample lots of autos/automanuals. I can tell you without a doubt, my 03 G's auto is light years ahead of 98% of the autos I've driven. Most are truely slushy, laggy, and Buick-like. The most responsive autos I've driven? They're all from Nissan (Titan, Maxima, Altima, Roque, Murano). The new GM 6ATs are pretty good too and the 6AT in the new F150 is quadruple light years better than the old POS 4AT.
I don't think the auto in this car is the end all to automatics. It's just a great automatic for daily use. I've also used it at the strip and the auto-x. I rent tons of cars, SUVs, and trucks for work which means I get to sample lots of autos/automanuals. I can tell you without a doubt, my 03 G's auto is light years ahead of 98% of the autos I've driven. Most are truely slushy, laggy, and Buick-like. The most responsive autos I've driven? They're all from Nissan (Titan, Maxima, Altima, Roque, Murano). The new GM 6ATs are pretty good too and the 6AT in the new F150 is quadruple light years better than the old POS 4AT.
Shifting sluggish is programmed by the car maker, for comfort. I'm sure you wouldn't expect a Camry to shift 1000x fast but more for comfort.
Track with slips dummy. Highly doubt that you have never once gone over the speed limit. Thats illegal speeding mang
BTW do you still need an airbag system? I'm selling for $15k
Actually, according to Tangerine 4DGS knows the most
#71
last year i took my G to the strip for the first, and only, time. it was a hot summer evening so my best run was only 14.3 @ 98, with a worst of 14.4 @ 97 after 5 runs. my RT's were anywhere between .2 -.5s which is pretty terrible, i know. the one consistent "variable" was the 60' launch: all were in the 2.1's.
i found my G very easy to launch. the OEM clutch was easy to modulate. i launched from about 2-2.5k rpms with slight wheel slippage (VDC off). and i'm certainly no pro drag guy - i've never drag'd any car at a strip. i have raced on road-circuits, however, with past vehicles.
my point is that i feel the G is a very straight forward 6MT to launch, and the first 4 gears were perfectly suited to the 1/4 mile since i was near redline in 4th at the line...
maybe the trouble some people have is with aftermarket lightened clutch components?
i found my G very easy to launch. the OEM clutch was easy to modulate. i launched from about 2-2.5k rpms with slight wheel slippage (VDC off). and i'm certainly no pro drag guy - i've never drag'd any car at a strip. i have raced on road-circuits, however, with past vehicles.
my point is that i feel the G is a very straight forward 6MT to launch, and the first 4 gears were perfectly suited to the 1/4 mile since i was near redline in 4th at the line...
maybe the trouble some people have is with aftermarket lightened clutch components?
#72
Yeah I've been to the track, as someone mentioned launching a manual is an art form and just takes some getting use to. Difficult in the beginning but why make it out to be impossible. There are programs out that helps with launching a manual (ie. 2 steps). But thats another discussion.
#75