Just ordered 2.5 gallons of Amsoil ATF
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Just ordered 2.5 gallons of Amsoil ATF
60000 miles on my 2004 sedan, going to flush all the fluids. Matic S is 18 bucks a quart here in Maui and I won't support that kind of markup on principle alone. I have done some research and searched a bit only to conclude that there is really no definative conclusion regarding the great Amsoil vs S Matic debate. So, as my first contribution I will document my results after replacement amsoil ATF.
60000 on the car, 5000 are mine. Tranny runs great to date, maybe a slight jerk when shifting into 3rd but I think it has more to do with gassing it between gears. Not sure about the cars history, seems well maintained.
Going to perform the flush procedure documented in the diy video. Also going to add the inline filter. Plan on flushing through about 5 quarts.
If anyone has had experience with amsoil ATF, good or bad, please chime in. Any questions our requests, ask away.
60000 on the car, 5000 are mine. Tranny runs great to date, maybe a slight jerk when shifting into 3rd but I think it has more to do with gassing it between gears. Not sure about the cars history, seems well maintained.
Going to perform the flush procedure documented in the diy video. Also going to add the inline filter. Plan on flushing through about 5 quarts.
If anyone has had experience with amsoil ATF, good or bad, please chime in. Any questions our requests, ask away.
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IMO, you're walking on egg shells. When you the pop the hood and it specifically calls out and warns you to use a particular brand of ATF, you'd best heed the warning. They didn't spend the money to put the sticker under the hood for marketing purposes. It's not a recommendation. Nissan is VERY specific about using S/J-matic in their JATCO 5AT RE5R05A technical papers regarding the use of the fluid and the additives it uses. Nissan doesn't note any other fluid brand requirements except for the usage of J/S matic. If they think it's important, so should you. It's not worth the risk of damaging the $3,499 tranny.
Per the FSM:
I've got three technical papers from Gears Magazine, an automotive transmission repair trade publication, they take the time to note required usage of J-matic (now S) in the JATCO 5ATs. They even point out if the customers 5AT is behaving erratically, verify the ATF is J-matic.
As for the inline filter, it's overkill and not needed.
Per the FSM:
Using automatic transmission fluid other than Genuine Nissan Matic J ATF will cause deterioration
in driveability and automatic transmission durability, and may damage the automatic transmission,
which is not covered by the warranty.
in driveability and automatic transmission durability, and may damage the automatic transmission,
which is not covered by the warranty.
As for the inline filter, it's overkill and not needed.
Last edited by DaveB; 11-02-2010 at 02:47 AM.
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Not that I've read. I know others have had issues with other non-Nissan brands including Royal Purple. If the tranny doesn't drive right after putting in the fluid, make sure to swap out because it's not going to correct itself. Let us know how it goes.
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i have non matic D in my T-case but matic D is very known to be just dextron.
I dont think anything will happen, i know of 3 shops around here that are vendors of amsoil and they do flushes on G35/350z and a whole bunch of others cars and never had an issue. Least thats what they tell me but then again this is a performance shop so not many are AUTO's and the one that are AUTO are the DSG-like ones.
I dont think anything will happen, i know of 3 shops around here that are vendors of amsoil and they do flushes on G35/350z and a whole bunch of others cars and never had an issue. Least thats what they tell me but then again this is a performance shop so not many are AUTO's and the one that are AUTO are the DSG-like ones.
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How do you figure that? I am sure you know all our trannys have is a Screen.
I was looking into the Magnefine filter (it has a media and magnets at the end) its about 25 bucks. I know Bythabay installed one on his.
But could you explain what its not needed?
I was looking into the Magnefine filter (it has a media and magnets at the end) its about 25 bucks. I know Bythabay installed one on his.
But could you explain what its not needed?
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I'll never buy into the conspiracy theory that automakers design cars for 100K and that's it. It doesn't make business sense. Long term dependability is what keeps owners coming back. Companies like Audi, VW, Benz, etc. have gotten really bad names because their long term dependability is so horrendous now.
Heat is typically what kills automatic transmissions. This comes from either not changing the fluid enough, driving it really hard, or sending more power through it than it was designed for. For most us, it's the power additions that end up killing these automatics.
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Just curious, why do some of you choose to go with aftermarket fluids when Nissan is so adamant about using their ATF and for good reason? Is it cost? Nissan wouldn't go to such lengths such as issuing technical service bullentins specifically noting that S or J-matic must be used in these cars.
http://www.the370z.com/images/servic...NTB08-049b.pdf
http://www.the370z.com/images/servic...NTB08-049b.pdf
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The OEM screen and pan magnet are capable of capturing and filtering particles that can cause damage to the transmission. As it's been explained to me, internal friction tolerances on an automatic transmission aren't remotely as tight as those inside an engine therefore filtering out ultra tiny micron particles is overkill. This is a late model transmission with higher tech and better wearing parts. This isn't a TH350 from your grandpa's 78 Silverado. If Nissan thought it was necessary to add a serviceable filter, they would have, IMO.
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Just curious, why do some of you choose to go with aftermarket fluids when Nissan is so adamant about using their ATF and for good reason? Is it cost? Nissan wouldn't go to such lengths such as issuing technical service bullentins specifically noting that S or J-matic must be used in these cars.
http://www.the370z.com/images/servic...NTB08-049b.pdf
http://www.the370z.com/images/servic...NTB08-049b.pdf