Thanks guys.
Sounds like the 350EVO is the best choice for me.

I'm going with a staggered rubber setup, & I def want to
reduce the understeer. So I think I'll leave the front stock.

 

Remember, a staggered wheel/tire setup just adds to more understeer although there are other areas where you can compensate for that if you must have a staggered setup.

 

wait. the collars are supposed to fit snug around the bar right? i got the 2 collars from McMasterCarr for the rear bar, but it is too big. I hope i didnt get the wrong ones. SHipping is killing me for these things.

 

Ya, thanks....
That's why I haven't totally made up my mind on the stagger yet. I may just end up going larger, with 245s all arround.

But if I do, a better rear bar like the 350EVO should help compensate for the staggered setup.

 

Oh no! I think THX might have accidentally switched part numbers for the front and rear. The 6436k146 should be for the front, and the 6436k141 should be for the rear. The first one I listed is 1-3/8" bore, and the second is 15/16" bore (accoring to McMaster). Correct me if I'm wrong THX. Are those the proper OD sizes of the Hochkis bars?

 

Ballz ... I did goof!

1-3/8" and 15/16" bore is the ID. The front bar is most definitely larger than the rear ... which means 1-3/8" (6436K146) is for the front and 15/16" (6436k141) is for the rear. Sorry!

 

a bill shipped? where from? do they have any more? is $280 a good price for the hotchkiss bars?

 

According to an email from Hotchkis, the collars are not required because the curved shape of the bar limits the bar movement. Secondly I have read that installing the collars will reduce the life of the bushings due to the collars coming into contact with them when hard cornering.

 

btw... The only complaint I have with the Hotchkis is that the modifying of the tab at the connection to the links prevents proper tightening and torqueing of the bolts. I have had to tighten mine twice... They recommend 40 ft-lbs -- I torqued to 60 ft-lbs and applied lock-tite (blue) to the bolts.

Handling is great !!

 

And I sure hope you didn't read into Hotchikis' response. The Curves are no where near where it needs to be to prevent significant lateral displacement of the bars. Even if they were located in such a way to restrict movement ... that approach will just about put any mechanical engineers into seirzure. You want do what with what?!?!?

With respect to the wear on the bushing ... again, they are offering just about the worse excuse anyone could come up with. A properly placed collar will have little to no wear on the polyeurethane bushings ... certainly no worse than the sway bar to bushing contact point. This isn't rocket science here ... collars are about as basics as 1-2-3 for sway bars.

Not running collars which leads to dislocation of the bar = worn out endlinks and sketchy bar performance. The fact is ... a deficiency was found and they are not willing to step up to the plate, instead are offering poorly chosen excuses. Now that is ridiculous. I sincerely hope those were the responses of the marketing people rather than their engineer.

Bottom of the line ... ur car ... your choice

 

Well said and couldn't agree more. There's a good reason why the Nissan engineers decided to put collars on the OEM sway bars. They're not there for looks. It would be wise to listen to what Clint just said.

 

So, if I add it up correctly, Stillen, Evo, and Hotchkis all sell sway bars for the G35. My question is - what bushings do these all use? Do they all use the Infiniti bushings? I've heard Hondas with Eibach bars and their bushings squeeking down the road, and that is not something that I would look for in an upgrade for my car.

thanks
Gary

 

Most all comes with poly bushings in place of the oem rubber piece, while other offer them as an add-on option. Squeeks develops as the result of poor lubrication of the bushings. A thick waterproof grease is most effective and is supplied with some of the bars (e.g. Eibach and Hotchkis).

 

ok, i've been trying to figure this out. about the alleged collars... i didn't have any on my sedan. is it a coupe thing? or a m/t thing? i've got a '04 sedan a/t. i have no idea what collars you guys are referring to. these are stock? i swapped out my stock sways for hotchkis sways, and they were complete replacements for my stock components.

 

Collars are present on the stock bars.