Brakes/Rotors
#1
Brakes/Rotors
really wish someone would teach me how to replace my own brakes/rotors. took the car in for a standard oil/filter change. seems that each time I present them with a coupon for the service, they find something else. although, I have been hearing the squealing recently, so this was certainly long over due.
however, getting a chance to see the receptionist makes it all worth it....
however, getting a chance to see the receptionist makes it all worth it....
#2
Are you somewhat mechanically inclined? Do you have access to a decent set of tools?
First off, remember that these oil change places will always try and find some other service recommend. Why do you think the oil changes are so cheap in the first place?
Just because the brakes are squealing doesn't mean the rotors need replacement. You need to measure the rotor thickness to see if they're still within the service range. Noise could simply be worn pads or loose brake pad shims.
Replacing the front rotors is pretty easy and I can do them in about 1 hour or so. I'd suggest finding a copy of the G35 Infiniti Field Service Manual for reference. There may even be a DIY on this site.
1) After removing the wheel, remove the lower 12mm bolt (most forward to the front of the car) from the caliper. Once removed, the caliper can rotate upwards, exposing the pads. Use a flat blade screwdriver to pry out the pads.
2) Slide the caliper back down, put the bolt back in and tighten hand tight. Take a 18mm socket and 18" breaker bar and remove the two bolts securing the caliper to the hub. Remove the caliper and use a peice of wire, bungee cord, etc to suspend the caliper in the wheel well and away from the rotor.
3) Now the rotor is ready be removed. If the rotors have been replaced in the past, then you might get lucky and they'll slide right off. If you're like most of us though that live in areas that see snow, the rotor will have seized itself a bit to the hub. Take a rubber hammer or 2lb sledge, etc and tap the rotor off the hub. Work in a circular pattern around the backside of the rotor. Slide the rotor off the hub and lug studs.
4) Clean off the rust on the hub and put a little bit of antiseize on the hub so that removing rotors in the future will be easier. Install the new rotor by simply sliding it on.
5) Reinstall the caliper. You'll need to look up the torque specs for the two bolts. I believe it's in the 80 ft/lb range.
6) Remove caliper bolt you had previously tightened to hand tight.
7) Remove the brake cylinder fill cap and use a u-clamp to compress the caliper flush back into the caliper assembly. You do this to make room for the thicker new pads. Take care not to damage the rubber seal around the caliper. After you're done compressing the calipers, put the brake cylinder fill cap back on.
8) Install the new pads.
8) Reinstall caliper bolt. You'll need to look up the torque specs for the two bolts. I believe it's in the 25 ft/lb range.
Done
First off, remember that these oil change places will always try and find some other service recommend. Why do you think the oil changes are so cheap in the first place?
Just because the brakes are squealing doesn't mean the rotors need replacement. You need to measure the rotor thickness to see if they're still within the service range. Noise could simply be worn pads or loose brake pad shims.
Replacing the front rotors is pretty easy and I can do them in about 1 hour or so. I'd suggest finding a copy of the G35 Infiniti Field Service Manual for reference. There may even be a DIY on this site.
1) After removing the wheel, remove the lower 12mm bolt (most forward to the front of the car) from the caliper. Once removed, the caliper can rotate upwards, exposing the pads. Use a flat blade screwdriver to pry out the pads.
2) Slide the caliper back down, put the bolt back in and tighten hand tight. Take a 18mm socket and 18" breaker bar and remove the two bolts securing the caliper to the hub. Remove the caliper and use a peice of wire, bungee cord, etc to suspend the caliper in the wheel well and away from the rotor.
3) Now the rotor is ready be removed. If the rotors have been replaced in the past, then you might get lucky and they'll slide right off. If you're like most of us though that live in areas that see snow, the rotor will have seized itself a bit to the hub. Take a rubber hammer or 2lb sledge, etc and tap the rotor off the hub. Work in a circular pattern around the backside of the rotor. Slide the rotor off the hub and lug studs.
4) Clean off the rust on the hub and put a little bit of antiseize on the hub so that removing rotors in the future will be easier. Install the new rotor by simply sliding it on.
5) Reinstall the caliper. You'll need to look up the torque specs for the two bolts. I believe it's in the 80 ft/lb range.
6) Remove caliper bolt you had previously tightened to hand tight.
7) Remove the brake cylinder fill cap and use a u-clamp to compress the caliper flush back into the caliper assembly. You do this to make room for the thicker new pads. Take care not to damage the rubber seal around the caliper. After you're done compressing the calipers, put the brake cylinder fill cap back on.
8) Install the new pads.
8) Reinstall caliper bolt. You'll need to look up the torque specs for the two bolts. I believe it's in the 25 ft/lb range.
Done
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#7
I just replaced the front rotors/pads on my car and it's not that hard... I just looked up some videos and DIY's on the forums. Just be sure you have a breaker bar. The hardest part (by far) for me was getting off the 22mm (I think they're 22mm...) bolts that hold the caliper in place. They were torqued over 150 ft. lbs. on my car and I managed to get one side off after 2 hours, and then proceeded to go to the store to buy a breaker bar lol. Much easier with that.
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thanks for the tips, DaveB. It's not that I'm not mechanically inclined, just don't have very much time - plus a little skittish when it comes to attempting repairs on something very expensive. usually, I attempt to do my own house projects, I find a way to mess something up or break the first time, but learn after then. so I don't want to risk causing any additional damage on this car - I would need to practice on other cars first I guess.
I always take my car to the infiniti dealership that I bought it from, and they are good to me there. usually, I get the oil/filter change for $35 - which is well worth my time given that I have little of it.
but thanks for the step-by-step instructions - I'll have to clear my calendar one weekend this summer to give this a try....
I always take my car to the infiniti dealership that I bought it from, and they are good to me there. usually, I get the oil/filter change for $35 - which is well worth my time given that I have little of it.
but thanks for the step-by-step instructions - I'll have to clear my calendar one weekend this summer to give this a try....
#10
I know what you mean about being a little hesitant to do some jobs on your car. I used to be the same way. Once you start doing them you'll be more confident. Having the right tools makes all the difference.
I recommend watching some of the videos in this thread: https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-sed...eo-series.html
They show you how do several maintance jobs in great detail. I've saved a ton of money by doing stuff myself versus paying someone to do it.
I recommend watching some of the videos in this thread: https://g35driver.com/forums/g35-sed...eo-series.html
They show you how do several maintance jobs in great detail. I've saved a ton of money by doing stuff myself versus paying someone to do it.
#11
Brakes are probably the biggest money maker for cars since most people are afraid to touch them. If you know how to change brakes, you can save thousands over the course of your lifetime in vehicle repairs.
It's not that tough, but if you have a friend who knows how to do them I'd suggest asking him over to supervise.
It's not that tough, but if you have a friend who knows how to do them I'd suggest asking him over to supervise.
#12
Where you live also comes into play when telling how "easy" it is to do a certain job. When you have to deal with rust & salt, it makes your life worse and can turn an "easy" 2 hour job into a 5 hour one just because of one stubborn bolt or nut.
For example, yesterday, I practically did a brake job but just reused the old pads & rotors (focus was on lubrication which took care of the squeaking when not braking). But one of the caliper bolts on one wheel I could not get off & ended up stripping it Now I'm eventually gonna have to spend some time trying to "fix" that.
Doing stuff yourself is good & gives you confidence, it just sucks when things don't go as planned and then you've gotta waste time as a result.
But brakes are a pretty simple job on this car....in theory.
For example, yesterday, I practically did a brake job but just reused the old pads & rotors (focus was on lubrication which took care of the squeaking when not braking). But one of the caliper bolts on one wheel I could not get off & ended up stripping it Now I'm eventually gonna have to spend some time trying to "fix" that.
Doing stuff yourself is good & gives you confidence, it just sucks when things don't go as planned and then you've gotta waste time as a result.
But brakes are a pretty simple job on this car....in theory.
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