New Tires for Sedan
#16
Originally Posted by willwork
Anyone else have experience with these Dunlop tires or size change?
#17
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From: Toronto, GTA north
Originally Posted by yeahdickey
I was thinking about getting the Avon Tech M550's in the 235/50/17 instead of the 215/55/17. However, I have an 05' G35x and I am a little concern with how the handling will be affected on the front tires when all 4 wheels are working, due to larger surface. Any advice ?
I was always told that it's OK to change tire size on an AWD.
The main thing was to keep all 4 the same or it could damage
the AWD system. (no stagger)
Not absolutly sure about the ATTESA system, but I'd get confirmation
from a tech first
#20
Dunlop SP 5000's 245/50/17
The Dunlops were recommended for 7" rims as a minimum. (I am sure having a wider rim would be nice, but like the stock look of my car and do not want to spend a fortune on wheels.) After running them for about a month, I have zero complaints. They are very good tires (much better than the original Goodyears). I would have liked them to come in a 235 size, but could not find a tire in the high performance catagory around $150 per tire when I looked. Side wall tire bulge is not bad at all. I did not look at the Falken's or Avons, but still think I would not have changed my mind at this point. I don't race the car so ultimate performance is not the question. The wide tires look great on the car! I may look at the 245/45/17 tires next time I replace, but depends on what brands are avaliable and the price.
#21
Willwork....your selection in the 245/45/17 size is a lot better. I looked at the 245/50/17 due to the rim width, but decided on the 245/45/17. While it is recommended that a minimum 7.5 width rim is used, I believe that the tire engineers have built in a safety tolerance of at leased 10% to as much as a 20%, with no loss of contact patch. If the minimum and maximum rim widths tolerances were excatly at the recommended widths the lawyers would be circling like vultures over the tire company's. Most engineers( in various fields) that I know build in safetly factors to cover their A$$, and the company as well.
I have 1800 miles on my tires and I'm completly happy. I did get a 4 wheel alignment done. The rear camber was out significantly. Not sure if it was due to the change tires size, or just need an alignment. It was brought back into spec with no problems.
I have 1800 miles on my tires and I'm completly happy. I did get a 4 wheel alignment done. The rear camber was out significantly. Not sure if it was due to the change tires size, or just need an alignment. It was brought back into spec with no problems.
#22
Dunlop Specs
Willwork....your selection in the 245/45/17 size is a lot better.
When I go back to the Dunlop Website, SP 5000 All Season, here are the specs for the two different sizes and what they recommend:
P245/45ZR17: rim width: 7.5- 9.0, section width: 9.8, dia: 25.9, tread width: 8.8
P245/50ZR17: rim width: 7.0- 8.5, section width: 10, dia: 26.7, tread width: 8.8
(Original Goodyears RSA 215/55-17: dia:26.3)
I guess the manufacturers have different recommendations, and I think that I will follow their recommendation.. So far, I like the 245/50's which are all season tires.. (Yet to try in snow..)
Why do you think the 245/45 is a lot better??
When I go back to the Dunlop Website, SP 5000 All Season, here are the specs for the two different sizes and what they recommend:
P245/45ZR17: rim width: 7.5- 9.0, section width: 9.8, dia: 25.9, tread width: 8.8
P245/50ZR17: rim width: 7.0- 8.5, section width: 10, dia: 26.7, tread width: 8.8
(Original Goodyears RSA 215/55-17: dia:26.3)
I guess the manufacturers have different recommendations, and I think that I will follow their recommendation.. So far, I like the 245/50's which are all season tires.. (Yet to try in snow..)
Why do you think the 245/45 is a lot better??
#23
Originally Posted by willwork
The Dunlops were recommended for 7" rims as a minimum. (I am sure having a wider rim would be nice, but like the stock look of my car and do not want to spend a fortune on wheels.) After running them for about a month, I have zero complaints. They are very good tires (much better than the original Goodyears). I would have liked them to come in a 235 size, but could not find a tire in the high performance catagory around $150 per tire when I looked. Side wall tire bulge is not bad at all. I did not look at the Falken's or Avons, but still think I would not have changed my mind at this point. I don't race the car so ultimate performance is not the question. The wide tires look great on the car! I may look at the 245/45/17 tires next time I replace, but depends on what brands are avaliable and the price.
215/55/17
Avon Tech M500 $136 UHPS (Ultra high performance Summer or All season)
Goodyear Eagle RS -A $124
235/50/17
Kumho ECTSA KH11 $105
Goodyear RS-A $124
Avon Tech M550 $128
close
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 $180
225/50/17
Kumho Ecsta KH11 $105
AVON Tehc M500 $124
Close but
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 $154
I'm not a Goodyear Fan but that tire for that price. good buy. By the way I manufacture product sold to the tire industry so I have a little inside info, but I have to be selective what I say.
#26
Why do you think the 245/45 is a lot better??
It not a question of better, its a question of selection.The 245/50 is limited on the tire manufactures that produce this size tire. Tirerack has about four manufactures listed for the 245/50...Michelin, Dunlop, Pirelli, and BF Goodrich. The 245/45 has approximatly 10 in various configurations of HP Summer, All Season, and Winter. The 235/50/17 is a good choice, but again is limited. The 225/50 will have a lot of selections as well.
The key is if you are happy with your choice, then stick with it.
It not a question of better, its a question of selection.The 245/50 is limited on the tire manufactures that produce this size tire. Tirerack has about four manufactures listed for the 245/50...Michelin, Dunlop, Pirelli, and BF Goodrich. The 245/45 has approximatly 10 in various configurations of HP Summer, All Season, and Winter. The 235/50/17 is a good choice, but again is limited. The 225/50 will have a lot of selections as well.
The key is if you are happy with your choice, then stick with it.
Last edited by G35/SR71; 12-26-2004 at 09:27 PM.
#27
Why only use the tirerack?I got my 245/245 17s from onlinetires. They are Toyo Proxes 4 and they only ran $108 each and are listed in SCC are an Ultra High Performance tire. Don't let the tire rack limit you choices. Look around and see whats out there. I also had Pilots A/S 235/50 17s and hated them they have to be at least twice as noisy as my Toyos. I got beat up by them for 12K miles and sold them to a friend who was selling his car. Michy's carry quite a name but... I am also running 17x8s.
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