How much non-premium gas is bad for the engine?
#46
2003-2004 6MT and 5AT SEDANS: 87, with 91 recommended for better performance
2005-2006 6MT SEDANS: 91
2005-2006 5AT SEDANS: 87 with 91 recommended for better performance
2003-2006 Coupe (all): 91
While you're correct about your 'recommended' versus 'required' statement in Infiniti's case it seems, it is kind of an assumption that all manufacturers follow this 'reccomended' vs. 'required' wording. Perhaps I'm wrong, and there is some regulation governing this. But i doubt it. And furthermore, ridiculous to dispute over it. I'm just happy to see someone actually do some research to back up a statement though in one of these threads, that sir, is refreshing, thank you
That Edmunds list is pretty cool, I like Edmunds, they put together good stuff. Too bad they don't have anything prior to '08.
the Compression ratio of all of the 1st gens is the same, also, not sure where that plays in maybe I'm missing something there too.
Last edited by TunerMax; 03-16-2012 at 01:45 AM.
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#50
OK For all you pimple faced punks still living with Mom and Dad, the '05-'06 MT models are the revup motors and they have different cams than the motors in the AT models. I refer you to page 181 of the '06 sedan Engine Maintanace manual. Not only is the timing, duration and lobe centers, diferent but the revup cams have more lift.
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#51
OK For all you pimple faced punks still living with Mom and Dad, the '05-'06 MT models are the revup motors and they have different cams than the motors in the AT models. I refer you to page 181 of the '06 sedan Engine Maintanace manual. Not only is the timing, duration and lobe centers, diferent but the revup cams have more lift.
From another silly thread comes some good info thanks dude
#52
Haven't tried it in the G, but in my Nissan Frontier 4.0 V6, it got me exactly 1/2 mpg better. Same with gas without ethanol. Not worth the price.
#54
the truth is rather simple about fuel and modern cars.
It should not be surrounded by such a vast amount of myths
All you need to do is simply google what octane number is and you will find out all about it.
Our modern cars equipped with fuel monitoring sensors and sophisticated computers that determine the octane number of the fuel you put in and monitor it's amount delivered to the cylinders in order to avoid pre mature detonation or knocking. As the result of this, using lower octane fuel will either result in better or worse mpg numbers depending on the area you live in, your altitude, air temperature and number of other factors. But using 87 octane fuel in place of 91 in NO WAY WILL DAMAGE your engine.
In case you do hear a knocking noise while accelerating, switch to 91 immediately because your fuel delivery system is clearly unable to compensate and you will damage your engine.
So to sum it up. Usually the use of lower octane fuel in cars that are set up to be ran on higher octane fuel will result in more fuel consumption. That is simply because of the way your engines computers are programmed and nothing else. Having said that, there are cases where people get better gas millage using lower octane fuel than their engines designed for due to their geographical location and climate.
It should not be surrounded by such a vast amount of myths
All you need to do is simply google what octane number is and you will find out all about it.
Our modern cars equipped with fuel monitoring sensors and sophisticated computers that determine the octane number of the fuel you put in and monitor it's amount delivered to the cylinders in order to avoid pre mature detonation or knocking. As the result of this, using lower octane fuel will either result in better or worse mpg numbers depending on the area you live in, your altitude, air temperature and number of other factors. But using 87 octane fuel in place of 91 in NO WAY WILL DAMAGE your engine.
In case you do hear a knocking noise while accelerating, switch to 91 immediately because your fuel delivery system is clearly unable to compensate and you will damage your engine.
So to sum it up. Usually the use of lower octane fuel in cars that are set up to be ran on higher octane fuel will result in more fuel consumption. That is simply because of the way your engines computers are programmed and nothing else. Having said that, there are cases where people get better gas millage using lower octane fuel than their engines designed for due to their geographical location and climate.
#55
By the way
Let's apply a bit of math to this entire debate.
Average miles driven per year are 15k miles
Average premium fuel price for 2011 let's say was $4.00 per gallon
Average regular fuel price for 2011 let's say was $3.50 per gallon
Average mpg achieved by our G35s during those 15k miles let's say 18 to be fair.
Math:
Using premium fuel you would have used 833 gallons @ $4.00 per gallon that would be $3332 dollars total spent a year
Using regular fuel you would have (assuming you got same mpg) used 833 gallons @$3.50 per gallon that would be $2915.50
Difference in savings per year is $416.50
So you save $400 a year.
You own a car on average for 5 years. That accumulates in $2082.50 in fuel savings.
So in 5 years you don't save enough to get you a new engine in case yours goes belly up for using a non recommended fuel in it.
Does it worth the risk?
Is 2k in 5 years really the money you cannot live without?
I suggest for those that struggling with bill at the fuel pump find another ways to save money and not dig your self and your car a grave from which you will need much more money to get out.
Look into your other spending habits that could easily be reduced or eliminated without any risk at all.
Let's apply a bit of math to this entire debate.
Average miles driven per year are 15k miles
Average premium fuel price for 2011 let's say was $4.00 per gallon
Average regular fuel price for 2011 let's say was $3.50 per gallon
Average mpg achieved by our G35s during those 15k miles let's say 18 to be fair.
Math:
Using premium fuel you would have used 833 gallons @ $4.00 per gallon that would be $3332 dollars total spent a year
Using regular fuel you would have (assuming you got same mpg) used 833 gallons @$3.50 per gallon that would be $2915.50
Difference in savings per year is $416.50
So you save $400 a year.
You own a car on average for 5 years. That accumulates in $2082.50 in fuel savings.
So in 5 years you don't save enough to get you a new engine in case yours goes belly up for using a non recommended fuel in it.
Does it worth the risk?
Is 2k in 5 years really the money you cannot live without?
I suggest for those that struggling with bill at the fuel pump find another ways to save money and not dig your self and your car a grave from which you will need much more money to get out.
Look into your other spending habits that could easily be reduced or eliminated without any risk at all.
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#57
You've probably seen this, but in case not, or for anyone else, this is a pretty solid site to find Corn-free gas:
http://pure-gas.org/
http://pure-gas.org/
#58
By the way
Let's apply a bit of math to this entire debate.
Average miles driven per year are 15k miles
Average premium fuel price for 2011 let's say was $4.00 per gallon
Average regular fuel price for 2011 let's say was $3.50 per gallon
Average mpg achieved by our G35s during those 15k miles let's say 18 to be fair.
Math:
Using premium fuel you would have used 833 gallons @ $4.00 per gallon that would be $3332 dollars total spent a year
Using regular fuel you would have (assuming you got same mpg) used 833 gallons @$3.50 per gallon that would be $2915.50
Difference in savings per year is $416.50
So you save $400 a year.
You own a car on average for 5 years. That accumulates in $2082.50 in fuel savings.
So in 5 years you don't save enough to get you a new engine in case yours goes belly up for using a non recommended fuel in it.
Does it worth the risk?
Is 2k in 5 years really the money you cannot live without?
I suggest for those that struggling with bill at the fuel pump find another ways to save money and not dig your self and your car a grave from which you will need much more money to get out.
Look into your other spending habits that could easily be reduced or eliminated without any risk at all.
Let's apply a bit of math to this entire debate.
Average miles driven per year are 15k miles
Average premium fuel price for 2011 let's say was $4.00 per gallon
Average regular fuel price for 2011 let's say was $3.50 per gallon
Average mpg achieved by our G35s during those 15k miles let's say 18 to be fair.
Math:
Using premium fuel you would have used 833 gallons @ $4.00 per gallon that would be $3332 dollars total spent a year
Using regular fuel you would have (assuming you got same mpg) used 833 gallons @$3.50 per gallon that would be $2915.50
Difference in savings per year is $416.50
So you save $400 a year.
You own a car on average for 5 years. That accumulates in $2082.50 in fuel savings.
So in 5 years you don't save enough to get you a new engine in case yours goes belly up for using a non recommended fuel in it.
Does it worth the risk?
Is 2k in 5 years really the money you cannot live without?
I suggest for those that struggling with bill at the fuel pump find another ways to save money and not dig your self and your car a grave from which you will need much more money to get out.
Look into your other spending habits that could easily be reduced or eliminated without any risk at all.
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