How to properly do a muffler delete?
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How to properly do a muffler delete?
So for some time now, I've wanted to get a full exhaust for my baby so I can make her sound meaner and obviously get a little more hp. But after a suggestion from my friend about simply adding a straight pipe, considering how good it sounds and how cheap it is, I think I want to take that route. My question is, how would I properly go about doing this, while still keeping the tips?
Also, is it true that simply removing the muffler may actually decrease horsepower, but a tune should fix that?
Also, is it true that simply removing the muffler may actually decrease horsepower, but a tune should fix that?
Last edited by jdubin94; 12-10-2015 at 10:48 PM.
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Making exhaust changes can shift the torque curve higher up in the RPM band. A tune won't get that back. It has to do with the way the exhaust pulses leave the cylinder head and the level of scavenging that occurs. Too free of an exhaust can hurt this and cost you some low end power. You usually make it up in high end HP but unless you drive around at redline 24-7, torque is always more useful in a street car than HP. That's why exhaust setups need to be properly thought up and appropriate to the level of modification. I've seen instances where guys slap straight pipes on a car all the way back (no cats or mufflers) and the car ends up being much slower at the drag strip.
I would not recommend the muffler delete. You'll love the sound for a while, and then get sick of it.
But to answer your question. do what Frostbite suggests. Unbolt the muffler and have a shop fab up a pipe with some tips that exists past the bumper. You do not want the exhaust to stop under the car because fumes will built up, and the sound will vibrate off the underside of the car and cause a horrible drone effect inside.
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I didn't realize a muffler delete was so frowned upon.. Is it because it's just viewed as a cheap, shortcut way to get a better sound than stock? The reason I am considering it is because there's a bunch of other things I'd like to do first and don't have money for a 1k exhaust. And if you ask me, compared to other vehicles, straight pipes on our cars sound much better than on others and for as low as $100, I'd say that's a pretty solid alternative. Should I really not do this..?
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I didn't realize a muffler delete was so frowned upon.. Is it because it's just viewed as a cheap, shortcut way to get a better sound than stock? The reason I am considering it is because there's a bunch of other things I'd like to do first and don't have money for a 1k exhaust. And if you ask me, compared to other vehicles, straight pipes on our cars sound much better than on others and for as low as $100, I'd say that's a pretty solid alternative. Should I really not do this..?
It's your car, you can do whatever you want.
I tend to subscrible to the "do it right the first time" sort of crowd, but I can understand what it's like to want something and not have $1K sitting around.
As an old fart, I say don't do it. But your car, your money.
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I did a resonator and muffler delete a few years ago.. The resonator delete while keeping the muffler sounds pretty dang good.
Then I got greedy and got the muffler taken off along with the resonator deleted sounds good at low rpms, drones a lot, and it is very raspy in the upper rpms. If I could recommend anything, it would be to delete the suitcase sized resonator before deleting the muffler.
Then I got greedy and got the muffler taken off along with the resonator deleted sounds good at low rpms, drones a lot, and it is very raspy in the upper rpms. If I could recommend anything, it would be to delete the suitcase sized resonator before deleting the muffler.