Riddle me this
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Riddle me this
Drove from north Texas to the Tucson area a few weeks ago. About 2/3rds of the way there, my SLIP and VDC lights came on. I keep a code reader in my glove box (I had a couple Maximas so I know better!) and there were no codes. Car was running fine. Check the forums and our local Nissan/Infiniti group and the consensus was the brake pads were getting low. No problem, hate the current pads, wanted to switch to ceramic anyway.
Before making the switch though, I noticed after getting back my car was starting to dog track (wander) over rough roads pretty bad and my steering wheel canted left a bit while driving straight. I was told when my a/c was repaired last year I needed new LCA bushings, so I took it back to the shop and they replaced the LCA's on both sides. Car drives so much better now, tightened up the front end considerably. And since picking it up, the SLIP and VDC lights have not come on and prior to that they would pop in within 3-4 miles of driving.
Still haven't swapped pads and the shop did confirm I had about 3000-5000 miles left in them. So the only change is the LCA's. Is slop in the front suspension something that wold trigger those two lights?
Before making the switch though, I noticed after getting back my car was starting to dog track (wander) over rough roads pretty bad and my steering wheel canted left a bit while driving straight. I was told when my a/c was repaired last year I needed new LCA bushings, so I took it back to the shop and they replaced the LCA's on both sides. Car drives so much better now, tightened up the front end considerably. And since picking it up, the SLIP and VDC lights have not come on and prior to that they would pop in within 3-4 miles of driving.
Still haven't swapped pads and the shop did confirm I had about 3000-5000 miles left in them. So the only change is the LCA's. Is slop in the front suspension something that wold trigger those two lights?
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The car has no sensor for low brake pads, so changing those isn't going to do you any good.
The brake MC has a low fluid sensor, but if this runs low, usually the brake light will come on with the others. Topping off the MC usually cures this.
I'd check the MC level and see where the fluid is at, but if it's fine, don't bother changing the brake pads until you need to as it has nothing to do with this.
Only part of the suspension I'd claim is related to the slip/VDC light are the front ABS sensors. They monitor wheel spin and control the ABD and traction control setup. It's possible when changing out the control arms, the sensors were removed and possible cleaned up a tad and that's why the light is out.
I've had the VDC/Slip light come on a few times when driving in the snow aggressively and packing the ABS rings with snow. Usually goes away when the snow melts in a little while. It could also be a failing sensor.
The codes are not read via your standard OBD2 reader. You need a consult2 in order to read the VDC codes.
Here's the service manual for the brake control system that the ABD/VDC is tied into
http://www.nicoclub.com/manuals/G35/..._Sedan/brc.pdf
The brake MC has a low fluid sensor, but if this runs low, usually the brake light will come on with the others. Topping off the MC usually cures this.
I'd check the MC level and see where the fluid is at, but if it's fine, don't bother changing the brake pads until you need to as it has nothing to do with this.
Only part of the suspension I'd claim is related to the slip/VDC light are the front ABS sensors. They monitor wheel spin and control the ABD and traction control setup. It's possible when changing out the control arms, the sensors were removed and possible cleaned up a tad and that's why the light is out.
I've had the VDC/Slip light come on a few times when driving in the snow aggressively and packing the ABS rings with snow. Usually goes away when the snow melts in a little while. It could also be a failing sensor.
The codes are not read via your standard OBD2 reader. You need a consult2 in order to read the VDC codes.
Here's the service manual for the brake control system that the ABD/VDC is tied into
http://www.nicoclub.com/manuals/G35/..._Sedan/brc.pdf
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Scottwax (02-01-2017)
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When I asked on the local Nissan/Infiniti group about the codes, one of the guys (who is a service advisor for an Infiniti dealer) said it is generally caused by worn pads which lowers the brake fluid level. When I checked my brake fluid, it was still above the low level line. Closer to the low level than high though.Snow generally isn't an issue here although we did have some heavy snow (for DFW anyway) when I had my Maxima and it was freaking out the ABS sensors until it melted so I hear ya on that.
Changing the pads anyway, the ones I have now turn my wheels black in a couple days and it drives me nuts. Got some Akebono ceramic pads.
Changing the pads anyway, the ones I have now turn my wheels black in a couple days and it drives me nuts. Got some Akebono ceramic pads.
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Originally Posted by Scottwax
When I asked on the local Nissan/Infiniti group about the codes, one of the guys (who is a service advisor for an Infiniti dealer) said it is generally caused by worn pads which lowers the brake fluid level. When I checked my brake fluid, it was still above the low level line. Closer to the low level than high though.Snow generally isn't an issue here although we did have some heavy snow (for DFW anyway) when I had my Maxima and it was freaking out the ABS sensors until it melted so I hear ya on that.
Changing the pads anyway, the ones I have now turn my wheels black in a couple days and it drives me nuts. Got some Akebono ceramic pads.
Changing the pads anyway, the ones I have now turn my wheels black in a couple days and it drives me nuts. Got some Akebono ceramic pads.
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Scottwax (02-01-2017)
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Nope. Only other thing I could find about those codes lights without an engine code was a yaw control sensor. Wonder if the wandering caused by the front end being loose would make it think there was an issue?
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I picked up their ProAct ceramic pads. Wanted as little dusting as possible while still maintaining good stopping power.
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I ran these. They were quiet for me. I went from OEM pads, to the ProACT and then back to OEM. Only think I really noticed was the OEM had better initial bite when cold, and the Pro ACT needed to get a little heat in them the first few stops. Other than that, I didn't notice if they were any better or not than the OEM pads.
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I ran these. They were quiet for me. I went from OEM pads, to the ProACT and then back to OEM. Only think I really noticed was the OEM had better initial bite when cold, and the Pro ACT needed to get a little heat in them the first few stops. Other than that, I didn't notice if they were any better or not than the OEM pads.
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A couple guys in the local Nissan/Infiniti group figured out what the issue was. The alignment was so far off the steering wheel wasn't centers (it was towards the left about an inch off center) and the sensors disable the systems.
".. if your {sic} driving straight but having to keep the steering wheel slightly off center due to the alignment issue it will through {sic} those codes due to the steering angle sensor giving a bad reading. The abs ECU would then disable the other functions to ensure you didn't start getting brakes applied or abs issues while trying to drive straight ahead".
".. if your {sic} driving straight but having to keep the steering wheel slightly off center due to the alignment issue it will through {sic} those codes due to the steering angle sensor giving a bad reading. The abs ECU would then disable the other functions to ensure you didn't start getting brakes applied or abs issues while trying to drive straight ahead".