my brother is freaking out cause im puttin in the jwt pop charger in his car, he thinks it will void is warranty and etc..? I think it shouldn't matter at all cause all I'm doing is putting in an open air filter element, I may be wrong however, what do you all say? thanks

 

From what I understand, there is a law that allows you to put aftermarket parts into your car. Should there be a malfunction with your car, i.e. engine problems, the dealer has to prove that your aftermarket part had caused the damage. I'm just recalling this from memory, maybe someone else on the board can give you a more definitive answer and some solid proof. I think this is a question posed by a lot of people.

Give this a read

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm

 

I think you should leave your brother's car alone.

 

I agree. Horsepower gains on those intakes are pretty suspect. Plus all they do is raise the eyebrows or service advisors.

 

Depends on the dealer, I was actually getting an oil change at my dealership and I noticed they are actually selling aftermarket parts for the G now. Intakes, springs, swaybars, billet grills, everything.

But if its your brother's car, I wouldn't bother with it.

 

^^Here is your answer Goonz^^

 

The dealer doesn't have to PROVE anything they are an independent business and can refuse to work on anything they chose for any reason they chose.

The warranty is with Nissan not the dealer.

The dealers largest customer is Nissan and they deal with them every day, when a dealer refuses [to warranty] it is because Nissan has told them [or experience has told them] Nissan won't pay. Up to you to persuade Nissan to pay via the local zone rep or engineer.

Dealer service department only has two souces of income YOU or Nissan. They like you better because you don't get the Nissan volume discount on labor hours per job.

Understand that the dealer and Nissan are in a constant dicussion because dealer wants to charge [overcharges] Nissan for warranty work.........gross amount allowed per vehicle sold.......the average per car warranty allowance. Warrantied parts are examined by Nissan for replenishment............"this MAF failed from owner abuse [bad air filtration oil film on element] no reimbursement to you MR Dealer and you get charged back for labor 90 days later when found out"...........why dealers are so sticky about known things like MAFs/ CAI caused failures etc.

Everyone should work [for a short time] for a car dealer at some point in their lives to better understand how things work!

 

Another great, informative post. Thanks again for the good, reliable information.

I agree about the 'working in a car dealership' statement.

 

MM is right on. My dealer is mod friendly. Sells Stillen gear, sways, etc...

Find a mod friendly dealer if he is freaking... And don't touch his car. Trust us. There is no way this can turn out well if he is spazzing over an intake.

Unless the dealer does the work.

Remove self from situation post-haste.

 

Ok, but who are the people feeding Nissan the information about your car? It's the service department at the dealership. They are the ones that are physically looking at and evaluating the situation. Not the Nissan warranty people.

When I was dealing with my engine failure the Service Mgr. at the dealership was trying to feed the Nissan people all kinds of false information. So, in turn Nissan was trying to deny my warranty. They only know what the dealers tell them.

 

"They only know what the dealers tell them."

True but that is their job to tell [act as eyes and ears for] their biggest customer and tell them what's going on in their opinion. If you act like a ***** and don't have a good relationship with the dealer service manager, why would they try to help you persuade Nissan to cover a mod?

A good relationship starts with buying the car where you get it serviced, then paying the dealer [a bribe] to do regular 90 day services [oil, 15k etc], then based on the profit they have made on you in past the shoe is [maybe] on the other foot.

Up to you to tell your side of story to the Nissan Zone People [who make the rounds among dealers and "hold court" MEET with customers every month or so] to handle compliants. A written letter to Nissan or a call to Zone people starts the ball rolling.

You have the right of arbitration and legal recourse in the COURTS, you have the right to shop dealers and hopefully find one more flexible, you have the right to sell your car.

Assuming you haven't made any emission modifications [which hold you liable for 10 years after the sale].........something few understand that a future owner can make you [sue you [with their STATES help and win easily]] to return the car to as oem built if you modify exhaust manifolds, piping, or precats or cats.
Why states require you to submit an emission test certification before a sale transfer to prove emission fraud [you submitted a passing test with illegal mods] LATER! You are Guilty by your own documentation.

 

WOW! You're right. I need to go work at a dealer for a while and get a good peek behind the curtain.

 

I never acted like a ***** at Peninsula, but the Service Mgr. there still tried to invent reasons why my CAI and exhaust caused my engine to consume oil at an astronomical rate. Are you saying we have to kiss the service departments @ss just to get good service? Nonsense.

I had my 30k service done along with a fuel flush just one month before catastrophe struck. That "bribe" didn't seem to get me anywhere.

I tried repeatedly to get a contact number to the regional Service Mgr. only to be stonewalled. They only allowed me to speak with the Service Mgr. of the dealership and Consumer Affairs. The woman at Consumer Affairs has no idea how cars work, so when the Service Mgr. was feeding her BS, she took it as established fact. Great system.

PS - I understand that you are trying to explain how things are supposed to work in these matters, but your opinion is obviously biased and some of your advice is the "ideal world" kind.

 

Can't dispute anything in your post, except maybe the option to go to another dealer. With a brand like Ford or Chevy, or hell even Toyota or Honda, there are plenty of local options. With a brand like Infiniti, there are only 3 dealers in my *state*.

The other two options are still valid however.

What really gripes me is the attitude of the service "liason" at the local dealer. At my first(3750) service in our 04, I mentioned a problem with filling the tank, and he totally blew me off. Fortunately, the problem has "disappeared", but I really didn't appreciate his attitude.

The next time I stopped by I wanted his opinion on a crack on my wife's 04 windshield. She was meeting me for dinner, and just noticed it, and couldn't see any originating rock chip, so she called me all flustered. I recommended that we meet at the dealership for their opinion. The guy came out, and found the chip(it was obscured by the top of the dash when sitting in the cabin), but he totally blew us off again.

The last time I dealt with the dealer, I needed to get the 1st service done for our 05, and the 7500 mile service done for our 04. I called to get prices, and they gave me the prices for the Premium services. I asked about the prices for ScheduleA, and they said it was just an oil change, so whatever an oild change cost. I asked about topping the fluids and the other inspections included in ScheduleA, and didn't respond to the fluids question, mentioned the inspections were visual, and maybe I should do it myself, and hung up.

Unfortunately, the closest Nissan dealer is owned by the same group, so 'm not expecting much better service there.