New competition for G35: 2006 Passat 3.6L 4Motion
New competition for G35: 2006 Passat 3.6L 4Motion
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Better torque band than the G35 and same horsepower rating. However, with 4Motion, it weighs around 3800lbs. It’s got a wonderful beefed up version of the engine Volkswagen used in their R32 Golf. Except this one’s 3.6L vs. 3.2L used in the R32. And according to the review, it has an aggressive exhaust note to boot. The interior appears top notch and the car looks classy overall. I like the sport package too – lowered 15mm, revised struts/springs, 18” wheels,etc. With sport package, wheel package, and bi-xenon headlamps, invoice is $33,392. A similarly equipped G35 invoice price is $31,500, so they are close. The fuel economy w/AWD is rated at 18/27 MPG which is better than the G35X. Rear leg room is 37+ inches which is a plus if you have a family to cart around.
Without driving one, it’s hard to comment, but I doubt it will handle as well as the G35. The Passat is clearly the more practical choice, but not too shabby. If you are looking for another AWD alternative and don’t want to mess with high horsepower FWD options, this is worth checking out.
Better torque band than the G35 and same horsepower rating. However, with 4Motion, it weighs around 3800lbs. It’s got a wonderful beefed up version of the engine Volkswagen used in their R32 Golf. Except this one’s 3.6L vs. 3.2L used in the R32. And according to the review, it has an aggressive exhaust note to boot. The interior appears top notch and the car looks classy overall. I like the sport package too – lowered 15mm, revised struts/springs, 18” wheels,etc. With sport package, wheel package, and bi-xenon headlamps, invoice is $33,392. A similarly equipped G35 invoice price is $31,500, so they are close. The fuel economy w/AWD is rated at 18/27 MPG which is better than the G35X. Rear leg room is 37+ inches which is a plus if you have a family to cart around.
Without driving one, it’s hard to comment, but I doubt it will handle as well as the G35. The Passat is clearly the more practical choice, but not too shabby. If you are looking for another AWD alternative and don’t want to mess with high horsepower FWD options, this is worth checking out.
The VR6 is one of my all-time favorite engines, especially the 24V version as this one is. It's an ingenious engine from many perspectives, all intake ports on one side, all exhaust on the other. 2 cams total to control all 4 'rows' of valves; variable intake runner length, variable intake and exhaust timing, and yes, a fantastic note from the exhaust.
The VW interior has traditionally been WAY more impressive to me than the Nissan / Infiniti interior and honestly my 2001 V6 Passat was a much more luxurious car inside than the G. My 2003 6MT VR6 GTI mixed the luxury interior with a very sporty, fun feel in a small package. However the GTI was a lemon and now, as is the case with lemons, I have a bitter taste in my mouth for VW. This is the first model year for the new passat and the new 3.6L VR6 and based on both those facts I'd avoid it. VW is still trying to recover from some fairly major quality issues over the past 2-3 years.
...And I'm not sure how I feel about the new looks, but I'm sure they'd grow on me. Fortunately I have a year left on my lease and I'm glad that the newer VR6 has been released.
...Unfortunately there are no plans for a manual transmission for this car / engine combo.
The VW interior has traditionally been WAY more impressive to me than the Nissan / Infiniti interior and honestly my 2001 V6 Passat was a much more luxurious car inside than the G. My 2003 6MT VR6 GTI mixed the luxury interior with a very sporty, fun feel in a small package. However the GTI was a lemon and now, as is the case with lemons, I have a bitter taste in my mouth for VW. This is the first model year for the new passat and the new 3.6L VR6 and based on both those facts I'd avoid it. VW is still trying to recover from some fairly major quality issues over the past 2-3 years.
...And I'm not sure how I feel about the new looks, but I'm sure they'd grow on me. Fortunately I have a year left on my lease and I'm glad that the newer VR6 has been released.
...Unfortunately there are no plans for a manual transmission for this car / engine combo.
Last edited by doogie; Sep 22, 2005 at 03:34 PM.
I saw the commercial for this car last night - looks a lot like the G from far away (similar trim and styling). Has good power, 4Motion, and VW *says* they have worked out the bugs they had in the last gen Passat/Jetta/GTI. I will wait and see, though.
My car before the coupe, as some of you know, was a 2002 Jetta 1.8T that I had to use the lemon law on. I was given a 2003 GTI VR6 in exchange for the original, and had to lemon that one as well. Before those two cars I had a string of 4 VWs, and was a big VW fan - but I am beyond sour after the hassle I had with the cars and them. It will definitely be interesting to see if they can bounce back on the quality front.
My car before the coupe, as some of you know, was a 2002 Jetta 1.8T that I had to use the lemon law on. I was given a 2003 GTI VR6 in exchange for the original, and had to lemon that one as well. Before those two cars I had a string of 4 VWs, and was a big VW fan - but I am beyond sour after the hassle I had with the cars and them. It will definitely be interesting to see if they can bounce back on the quality front.
heh picus you sound like me. The GTI was my 4th VW in as many years - We still have one of them, my wife's Jetta.
the thought of VW ignition coils still makes me shudder. I had ignition coil problems (who didn't) tranny problems, engine mount problems, window reg problems, stereo problems, trim pieces falling off, brake issues, all sorts of stuff. Was a painful year.
the thought of VW ignition coils still makes me shudder. I had ignition coil problems (who didn't) tranny problems, engine mount problems, window reg problems, stereo problems, trim pieces falling off, brake issues, all sorts of stuff. Was a painful year.
Originally Posted by doogie
heh picus you sound like me. The GTI was my 4th VW in as many years - We still have one of them, my wife's Jetta.
the thought of VW ignition coils still makes me shudder. I had ignition coil problems (who didn't) tranny problems, engine mount problems, window reg problems, stereo problems, trim pieces falling off, brake issues, all sorts of stuff. Was a painful year.
the thought of VW ignition coils still makes me shudder. I had ignition coil problems (who didn't) tranny problems, engine mount problems, window reg problems, stereo problems, trim pieces falling off, brake issues, all sorts of stuff. Was a painful year.
I've heard the same problems from other VW owners. My dad loves his Beetle, but did not recommend a VW as a daily driver. It's a shame too. I like Vdubs but I don't totally trust them.
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wo VW with so many problems. My first car was a 93 VW Fox, kept for five yrs with no problems and then traded. Purely basic 1.8 93HP engine and power nothing not even steering, I loved the heck out that car. Guess things changed over the years for quality huh.
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Originally Posted by gtbigup01
wo VW with so many problems. My first car was a 93 VW Fox, kept for five yrs with no problems and then traded. Purely basic 1.8 93HP engine and power nothing not even steering, I loved the heck out that car. Guess things changed over the years for quality huh.
No problems at all... maybe just luck of the draw
I think this is going to be a very nice car. I test drove the smaller engine version briefly. But I wanted the 3.6, because that is the only model that is going to be available with all the upscale options. The 3.6, apparently, is on a moving production schedule, and actually moved 6 weeks in two days when I was shopping. So I ditched the idea. But the features on this car are pretty amazing for the price. Steerable HID's, push button emergency brake, etc.
As far as VW reliability, I'm guessing they have improved. But who knows....
As far as VW reliability, I'm guessing they have improved. But who knows....
Not bad, but it did say that a fully optioned 3.6 gets up to $40k. That's still not bad since a fully loaded G35 can get to the high $30's. I don't care for the looks, though. It looks okay but not very aggressive. I could easily mistake it for a Camry or Accord. The interior does look nice. I would still prefer the G35 but it's good to have other options and real competition.
Originally Posted by inTgr8r
My '98 Passat was the same.
No problems at all... maybe just luck of the draw
No problems at all... maybe just luck of the draw



