Vegas, I posted the facts. I have all the Amsoil and Blackstone documentation in a book that I don't need to listen to your bs. Like I have said 5x in this post already. The oil filter is not the main concern of how long the oil lasts. It is all the other things I listed above. You on the other hand said otherwise but I never said that.

You need to do some studying. One good site for this info is

Bobistheoilguy.com

You might learn something instead of causing a I-ARGUEMENT.

 

YAWNNN...

You dont like the Amsoil site? You're their distributor..
I posted YOUR own words, and they contradict.

Sorry it took so long to respond but I wanted to look at the site you sent..

Good site if you want to know about additives, or need a conversion calculator.. but there is no study on filters at all..
BUT on this page
http://theoildrop.server101.com/wear.htm (a link from bobistheoilguy.com)
they do speak heavily of the contaminates and suspended particles in oil causing excessive engine and bearing wear.. Let me ask you.. how do you rid contaminates and particles from your engine oil..?? filters..

there is no argument here. You are the one arguing. You state to be the expert.

I am only disagreeing with you on the fact that the filter IS a main factor in the life of oil.. If you dont believe it is.. then bypass the filter on your G35 engine, change the oil as often as you like, and let us know how your engine is running at 100k..

Is it not ok to disagree with you?

didnt mean to hurt your feelings, kid..

 

Errr, if I'm not mistaken, the oildrop site is just Bobistheoilguy's forum server. Same site and it does have some very informative information regarding oil filters.

 

On that note, do oil filters go bad just sitting around on the shelf or in my garage? Are they still good 1, 2, 5 years later? I got a hell of a deal on Mobile 1 M1-105 filters but have about a 8 year supply at my driving rate.

 

Yes it is a forun site,, but if you follow the link I posted you will see what I am talking about..

If you find the filter section, send me the link..

 

I understand what you're saying.

I don't think he was arguing that fact though, only that the filter wasn't the sole and likely a lesser factor when determining the frequency with which to change the oil.

Assuming you aren't using a Fram orange death in a can filter, I believe the additive package in the oil will be consumed long before the filter is rendered useless. If you're dying to know if the filter is still filtering, crawl under the car with the engine hot and see if the filter is scalding hot. If it is, it's filtering, if it's not, the pressure got too high and the bypass opened so it's no longer filtering.

 

I dont know what he was arguing about,, but if you read the first posts u will see this exact quote from him, "Filter has nothing to do with how long your oil lasts"

You seem like an intellegant person fairly knowledgable in the area engine lubrication.. would you say that is a true statement..?

If you use a poor filter or continue using a dirty filter your oil will become contaminated and will need to be changed.. 10 miles or 10k..

 

Believe what you want. I am done wasting my time for people like you. It was even mentioned on the site the oil filter does little in the breakdown of the oil.

And that site has done many tests. MANY. I am also a long way from being a kid.

 

And below that you will see I added in the brackets ( ). LOL this is something else. You don't know what I was argueing about?! omg your a waste of my time.

 

Copy and pasted: My original post: And the part I bold.

If you use Castrol GTX you can go up to 5k of miles on that dino oil. It has shown in tests to last till then. Amsoil or Mobil 1, you can push over 6k. I only go to 6k for my piece of mind but I could go longer if I wanted too on Amsoil 5w30.

Filter has nothing to do with how long your oil lasts. After a while the oil starts to breakdown, and not work as it should. The oil filter only helps clean particles out of the oil but doesn't help the life of the oil. (Well to a certain point it does but not enough to make a issue out of it).

 

You forget very fast.. you called ME a kid..

Originally Posted by G35_TX
You obviously can't prove it. I didn't contradict myself. Quit stiring up trouble kid.

Im sure all of us are glad that you are finally finished wasting all of OUR time too..

All I asked for was a link.. Do you have one.. or not?

 

YAWN..... already been through all this.. Make up your mind,, does it, or doesn't it?

contradiction: n. Logic pl. con·tra·dic·to·ries

Either of two propositions related in such a way that it is impossible for both to be true or both to be false.

 

Wow...you guys are really beating the crap out of this topic.

Here are my personal oil change rules if anybody cares:
If using a full synthetic:

change after 6 months or 7500 miles (whichever comes first). If using the new nanofiber fitlers, change the filter after 25k or 1 yr whichever comes first. If after your 6 months or 7500 miles on the oil, you decide you want to extend drains (which you should aim to do anyways) do an oil analysis with a TBN count... that will tell you if you can extend your drain interval...

So in a sense you could be running one fill of oil for 1 yr or 25k miles with no filter change (given you are using the nano-fiber filter) and oil analysis to ensure your engine is adequately protected. Furthermore, if you're really interested in having the oil last a long time, then a bypass system is for you as it will remove moisture and other finer sub-micronic particles from the oil. And as we all know, synthetic oil doesn't break down, it just gets contaminated. Keep it clean with a bypass system and you can use that oil for more than 50k (backed up with oil analysis ofcourse).

 

Actually, if anyone wants help installing a bypass system, let me know I'd be glad to help out

 

Man I wish I had that picture about arguing on the internet. I agree that the oil filter does play a part in the longevity of the oil but a relatively minor part. That being said, what good does nit-picking statements by G35_TX do? About the same effect as calling someone else a kid. Both of you are right, now back to the topic at hand.

Yes, changing your oil every 3500miles with synthetic is overkill but I did it with my Z (God rest her soul). Better too often than not often enough. The $30 was worth my piece of mind every 5-6 months rather than every 9. I will do the same with my new G.