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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Thanks. I did miss that. Looks great.

Now for some brake pictures. The article stated that the sport model gets 13". I wonder if the 08 coupe will ever bring back something with more bling like the brembos.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jrock65
In the U.S., the BMW maintenance is for the first 50,000 miles. For the G35, this is my estimate of maintenance costs the first 50,000 miles:

7,500: $100
15,000: $200
22,500: $100
30,000: $300
37,500: $100
45,000: $300

Total: $1100

If you change oil every 3,750 miles, you'd have to add about $360 to the above. Of course, service costs are variable depending on your area and dealer competition.
Right; but that's assuming you're chaning the oil every 7,500 (which I would, but most people don't), and that you won't have to replace your brakes in the first 50k, which odds are you will. But yes, even if you're frugal it's still a savings of $1,100 USD.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by johnadlertech
Thanks. I did miss that. Looks great.

Now for some brake pictures. The article stated that the sport model gets 13". I wonder if the 08 coupe will ever bring back something with more bling like the brembos.
This is the closest I have seen for a brake pic.

https://g35driver.com/forums/attachm...0&d=1153176899
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by canuck
This is the closest I have seen for a brake pic.

https://g35driver.com/forums/attachm...0&d=1153176899
Thats great. I assume thats a sport model and it retains 2 piston calipers upfront. The closeups of the red 07 show 1 piston calipers in the front. And so do the dark blue one in the article. And thats is suposed to be a sport? So actually I am confused. They all had the same rims. Cant say I am loving them though.
 

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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by johnadlertech
Thanks. I did miss that. Looks great.

Now for some brake pictures. The article stated that the sport model gets 13". I wonder if the 08 coupe will ever bring back something with more bling like the brembos.
http://www.infinitinews.com/multimed...pe_concept.jpg

Notice the bronze-colored calipers. Back to bling, baby!
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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That's because you don't *need* to bring a car in every 3k. Clearly you know something about oil changes, so I assume you know that it's virtually contaminant free at 3k in modern engines, even non-synthetic. I own both a BMW and an Infiniti; in that time I've had 61k km worth of oil changes in the G (12), I've had 4 in 41k km on the BMW. The G cost me $560 up front for lifetime changes (it's $101 otherwise) (and yes they use synthetic), the BMW obviously cost me nothing. I also did the 45, 60, 75. 90k service on the G ($189 I think ) as well as the major service @ 75k (~$480 total?) and have replaced my pads and rotors to aftermarket (they needed replacing at 80k) ~$800. All in all I've spent about $2500 in two years or 61k km on the G and I've spend $0 on the BMW. Not trying to defend the bimmer here, just pointing out that free maintenance actually saves you some money. I will admit I have to replace the brakes on my BMW and it will cost ~$800. Still, $2500 vs $800.
Just for comparison, my coupe will be four years old in December and has just under 44K miles. In that time I've done ~10 oil changes (paid one at a time) plus the scheduled maintenance at 15K and 30K (doing 45K next month). I estimate my current repair costs through almost four years at ~$850 (including the 45K service I'm about to do). I realize I'm putting fewer miles on than most, but I wouldn't say ridiculously so. And like I said earlier in this thread, the true difference in cost between the two will really show up once both warranties are over. I understand your point, I'm just saying that I don't think the short-run savings are worth the long-run price tag. Unless of course you're planning on upgrading every 3-4 years, which brings its own price.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Who cares how much the g maintenance is...the difference between both cars with same options is about $10k. I can get an oil change every week and it still won't cover that. BMW = overpriced compared to the g35.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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If 330i was so good, then why did it lose to Honda Civic for Car of the Year Award from MotorTrend? I say we should all trade our cars for Civic now.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by vt_maverick
http://www.infinitinews.com/multimed...pe_concept.jpg

Notice the bronze-colored calipers. Back to bling, baby!
Calipers look the same as the calipers on my '05!
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by picus112
To expound on the "Infiniti's are thousands cheaper" another thing I rarely see mentioned here is the fact that BMW's have superior resale by at least a few percent (more like 5%) and have a significantly higher residual on leases. They also tend to have similar money factors. In fact if you price out the *current* G coupe versus an '07 335i coupe you'll see the 335i msrps less than 2k more, loaded it's about 6k more. If you keep the car over a 3 or 4 year lease you more than make that money up in residual value and maintenance.
I don't know about anywhere else, but in Birmingham Alabama, that is a myth. Price out the g sedans locally, and they're almost always within $500 to $1000 of the 330s. They're definitely more expensive than the 325's. I talking with comparable features, mileage, and condition. The g actually has very healthy resale value.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ABQ_G35
Calipers look the same as the calipers on my '05!
Notice that the entire caliper is painted (or anodized, or whatever) on the 2008 coupe, much the same as the 03-04 Brembo's. The 2005 calipers look only partially colored (to me).

2005 Calipers

*Tentative* 2008 Calipers
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Its really pretty pointless in arguing about Infiniti vs BMW in this forum. Because obviously this is a g35 forum so many people will say things to favor infiniti because they happend to own a car from infiniti. Its part of human psychology also that people tend to see and hear things that they want to believe in and block out the things they think are un true. One thing is the bmw reliability issue, people are so quick to remember and point out every single nagging problem thats wrong with bmw, saying how un reliable it is. But do you guys ever stop and think why does the bmw 3 series win as much awards as it does? How its considered the bench mark and how many rave reviews its gotten? How everyome compliments on the driving feel that bmw has that infiniti has tried so hard to duplicate but cant? O no that of course is blocked out of your mind, but wait, i remember my friends bmw has some problems, im goin to remember that part, but everything else thats good about bmw, im goin to try and block it off and only state the negatives about them. If you bring up the reliability issue in a bmw forum, i guarantee the arguement would be completely different and people will start recalling things about their friends and certain magazines to back up their arguement that bmw is reliable. Bottom line: BMW 3 series cannot be considered a un reliable car, just because you kno of a someone that has a bmw 3 series with problems doesn't prove anything. We cant take one example or even a couple of examples and then stereotype the car manufacture brand. Ok fine you say many magazines say infiniti is more reliable and you choose to believe it, well theres also alot of magazines that say bmw and their 3 series is a step above the infiniti g35, so can you buy that also? Lets really be fair now. If your going to start talking what you see in magazines and what you hear from people, than lets talk about it from both sides the positives and the negatives. And i dont think i've gone too far when i say the bmw 3 series is generally looked at as being the better car than the g35. Maybe not in this forum but in the rest of the world thats the general view. The fact is the g35 lost the comparison with the 330i, stop crying about it. THe g35 also beat the 330i when it first came out in 2003, so im sure theres no bias.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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I don't know about anywhere else, but in Birmingham Alabama, that is a myth. Price out the g sedans locally, and they're almost always within $500 to $1000 of the 330s. They're definitely more expensive than the 325's. I talking with comparable features, mileage, and condition. The g actually has very healthy resale value.
I didn't say it didn't have a healthy re-sale; I said that nationally the 330i has a better re-sale by about 5%, it also has better lease residuals by about 4-5% (depending on the term). I don't make the numbers.

As for actual pricing, frankly I'm unsure where all this "the g can be had similarly equipped for 10k less" business comes from.

I've got an order in on a 335i, I am picking it up in Munich (non ED msrp is 51,600 CAD, ed is 47,400 CAD), with options my car is $52,540 CAD; a similarly equipped *current* G-coupe (as close as I can equip it, no CA, no PDC, etc...) is $54,922 (no ed offered, obviously). If I were not doing ED my 335i would have been $56,740, so under $2,000 more than the current G-coupe. The residual on a 335i is ~63% with a mf of .002; the G is 60% with a mf of .00255. That more than makes up the 2k if you lease.

My point is unless you're comparing a loaded 330i to a base G35 sedan, you're not seeing a 7-10k difference. The '07 G sedan is msrp what, $33,000ish USD? BMW 330 is 37k ish; their option prices are similar... so where does the 10k come from?
 

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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by picus112
I didn't say it didn't have a healthy re-sale; I said that nationally the 330i has a better re-sale by about 5%, it also has better lease residuals by about 4-5% (depending on the term). I don't make the numbers.

As for actual pricing, frankly I'm unsure where all this "the g can be had similarly equipped for 10k less" business comes from.

I've got an order in on a 335i, I am picking it up in Munich (non ED msrp is 51,600 CAD, ed is 47,400 CAD), with options my car is $52,540 CAD; a similarly equipped *current* G-coupe (as close as I can equip it, no CA, no PDC, etc...) is $54,922 (no ed offered, obviously). If I were not doing ED my 335i would have been $56,740, so under $2,000 more than the current G-coupe. The residual on a 335i is ~63% with a mf of .002; the G is 60% with a mf of .00255. That more than makes up the 2k if you lease.

My point is unless you're comparing a loaded 330i to a base G35 sedan, you're not seeing a 7-10k difference. The '07 G sedan is msrp what, $33,000ish USD? BMW 330 is 37k ish; their option prices are similar... so where does the 10k come from?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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is the steering kickback issue still there? even with the single control arm design now?
 
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