auto faster than manual?

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Nov 17, 2006 | 04:17 PM
  #31  
I guess "faster" is a difficult term. IN the 1/4? Yeah, having more gears gives you better acceleration in theory. But having to shift one more time before the end of the 1/4 also takes time and hurts ETs.

I think the 5sp auto from the G is 1st auto from Nissan/Infiniti to be decent. Finally enough gears to allow decent ratios.

And since you just mash the gas and shift full throttle, it's shifting faster than a manual.

I'm not too sure how many guys here shift full throttle with their manuals.

Quote: On the G35, the manual will probably be faster than the auto due to gearing. On other cars however, the auto is faster. The Porsche TT's auto version is faster than their manual version (it even traps higher). In the Mercedes, the auto has 7 gears so its never out of its peak powerband.

In a couple years, I'd put my money on Nissan building an auto thats faster than their manuals. The GTR is supposedly rumored to have a dual clutch automatic so the days of the standard manual may be coming to an end.
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Nov 17, 2006 | 05:36 PM
  #32  
Powershifting
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Nov 17, 2006 | 05:39 PM
  #33  
Riiiigght. I bet NO one here shifts like that. ie... no lifting, no clutch
Quote: Powershifting
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Nov 17, 2006 | 06:09 PM
  #34  
Infiniti has stated that the new G35 5AT is less than .1 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile than the 6MT. The mag times seem to confirm Infiniti's data. Hopefully Infiniti has gotten the guys at Assin/Warner to finally build a decent 6MT for these cars. If there has been one major problem with these cars, it's the POS Assin/Warner 6MT in the 1st gen. It's loud, notchy, vibrates, as a weak clutch, and is basically unreliable. It totally takes away from the character of the car.
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Nov 17, 2006 | 06:15 PM
  #35  
Hmm I might have to concider the auto. I would still like the 6th gear so I get better MPG. Our 03 G still stuggles to get 25mpg on the highways.
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Nov 17, 2006 | 07:28 PM
  #36  
can't chirp the tires going into second with my auto (unless turning)
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Nov 17, 2006 | 07:50 PM
  #37  
Who cares if the auto is faster! Don't by the buy this car to drag race and any MT is 10x more enjoyable then any slushbox, DSG, SMG, etc. It doesn't matter if you know how to powershift, you will feel more in tune with your car.

If you want to REALLY enjoy your car, a third pedal is a must!
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Nov 18, 2006 | 09:48 AM
  #38  
Quote: Who cares if the auto is faster! Don't by the buy this car to drag race and any MT is 10x more enjoyable then any slushbox, DSG, SMG, etc. It doesn't matter if you know how to powershift, you will feel more in tune with your car.

If you want to REALLY enjoy your car, a third pedal is a must!

Why not Just because you don't race doesn't mean others don't want to. Hell this is what the HR is for.
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Nov 18, 2006 | 06:32 PM
  #39  
Also, don't forget that the manual is slightly lighter than the auto.
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Nov 18, 2006 | 06:40 PM
  #40  
anyone who buys the 6MT just so they have a faster 1/4 mile time should probably rethink their decision.

The auto and manual are totally different, some people like actually driving other people don't.
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Nov 19, 2006 | 01:43 AM
  #41  
if you use manumatic would they be dead even?
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Nov 20, 2006 | 01:11 PM
  #42  
What's with this "It comes down to the driver" argument? Of course the MT driver is gonna be more skilled, at least he/she knows how to operate a stick and clutch.
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Nov 20, 2006 | 01:13 PM
  #43  
Not accurate. Just because they own a manual, doesn't mean they can operate it well enough. They would have to be skilled enough to operate it well enough to extract a decent 0-60 / 1/4 time. So basicly, owning a manual doesn't = being able to drive one at the strip well.

Quote: What's with this "It comes down to the driver" argument? Of course the MT driver is gonna be more skilled, at least he/she knows how to operate a stick and clutch.
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Nov 20, 2006 | 11:42 PM
  #44  
Quote: Who cares if the auto is faster! Don't by the buy this car to drag race and any MT is 10x more enjoyable then any slushbox, DSG, SMG, etc. It doesn't matter if you know how to powershift, you will feel more in tune with your car.

If you want to REALLY enjoy your car, a third pedal is a must!
Ya know, everyone gets an opinion...and I disagree with this one I considered both for the new G, and wanted to ensure:
  • the car stays in whatever gear I choose
  • I can choose when shifts happen
  • and can take advantage of downshifting / throttle as a handling tool

Both the 6MT and the AT accomplish these, and with the AT on the sport I don't have to move my hands to shift, plus get to be lazy in traffic.

And believe me, going into a sharp corner about 30 minutes ago, dropped into second and hit it medium-hard out of the corner - nice clean drift followed by the big HP hit (which I then had to shut off since still in "break-in"...300 more miles... ) - a clutch wouldn't have added anything

Peace
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Nov 21, 2006 | 01:58 AM
  #45  
Quote: And believe me, going into a sharp corner about 30 minutes ago, dropped into second and hit it medium-hard out of the corner - nice clean drift followed by the big HP hit (which I then had to shut off since still in "break-in"...300 more miles... ) - a clutch wouldn't have added anything
How about increase the rev before engaging the clutch? This way you can maximize and increase you clean drift.

That is one of many benifits of a clutch pedal.
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