braking: sport vs non-sport
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Originally Posted by sedanman2007
I really don't think you will noticed much of a difference. You have have to do a 60-0 foot stop and measure to see if the 13" makes a big difference.
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Originally Posted by psteng19
It's not just about distance. Bigger brakes dissipate heat better so it will experience less fading for repeated stops.
Last edited by Sedanman07; 05-11-2007 at 12:13 PM.
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braking distance is not affected by rotors or pads or calipers. tires and weight distribution affects braking distance, period.
brake size affects fade resistance.
pad and caliper design/quality affects feel and modulation.
i have a non-sport, and found that the smaller calipers with the lower mechanical advantage (vs sport) actually felt better (stiffer- which i prefer) to me at the pedal than the sport brakes. since i'd never push a street car to the point of fade, i decided that i preferred the non-sport brakes.
if this were a track car, i'd want the sport brakes (or something even bigger).
brake size affects fade resistance.
pad and caliper design/quality affects feel and modulation.
i have a non-sport, and found that the smaller calipers with the lower mechanical advantage (vs sport) actually felt better (stiffer- which i prefer) to me at the pedal than the sport brakes. since i'd never push a street car to the point of fade, i decided that i preferred the non-sport brakes.
if this were a track car, i'd want the sport brakes (or something even bigger).
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Originally Posted by Altersys
braking distance is not affected by rotors or pads or calipers. tires and weight distribution affects braking distance, period.
Anyway, to the point of the OP. I was lucky enough to have a multi-hour road course session with my G and several others. Some of us were driving Sports, some Journeys (and some Journeys with Sport wheel package). Long story short, the non-Sports kept up just fine, and the drivers didn't report any brake fade. BUT, they did have a ton more dust on their wheels than the Sports, which makes me think their brakes were working harder. So from this I would surmise that a) there's a difference, but b) it's not a noticeable difference, and not one that gives an advantage unless you're in truly extreme conditions (i.e. we did 20 or so fast laps each time, but were probably driving at 90% vs. 100% - I wanted to drive home in the same car... )
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Originally Posted by Altersys
braking distance is not affected by rotors or pads or calipers. tires and weight distribution affects braking distance, period.
Originally Posted by G35Now!
Sure it is - bigger rotors and pads mean more braking surface, so more friction, so more stopping power. I would probably agree that tires and weight distribution have MORE of an impact.
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Originally Posted by G35Now!
Sure it is - bigger rotors and pads mean more braking surface, so more friction, so more stopping power. I would probably agree that tires and weight distribution have MORE of an impact.
do the rotors touch the ground? do the pads? what touches the ground? what is the real point of friction with the ground?
another way to look at it. are the "inferior" non-sport brakes incapable of locking up because they are so weak? that must be why only the sport cars have ABS.