3.7L in Sedan - Not Happening
#196
#197
Assuming MT gets their test weights the same way (without driver, certain amount of gas, etc.):
07 G35 Sedan = 3604 (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s_pricing.html)
08 G37 Coupe = 3770 (http://www.g37driver.com/images/MT-g37-4.jpg)
166 LB difference. Of course the Coupe in that article had 4WS but it didn't have Nav (no HDD), and the sedan had the wing which probably adds 2-3 pounds. Regardless, that's still a large discrepancy. I'd love to know how much of that is directly related to the taller engine.
07 G35 Sedan = 3604 (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s_pricing.html)
08 G37 Coupe = 3770 (http://www.g37driver.com/images/MT-g37-4.jpg)
166 LB difference. Of course the Coupe in that article had 4WS but it didn't have Nav (no HDD), and the sedan had the wing which probably adds 2-3 pounds. Regardless, that's still a large discrepancy. I'd love to know how much of that is directly related to the taller engine.
#198
#199
Originally Posted by BrianV
Motortrend got 5.4/14.0 but still gave it the nod over the 335i:
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/260025
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/260025
#200
Originally Posted by avs007
That's with the automatic transmission tho. I would've hoped for better, but I don't this it's that bad.
In today's world with cars this fast, the discrepancy between auto and stick isn't that significant. In fact, comparing auto's is better for consistency purposes anyways.
#201
To tell you the truth... in the past, putting the 3.7 in the sedan made sense on all levels... more power AND better gas mileage... a win-win.
But with the coupe so much heavier... they may not put the 3.7 in the sedan... in order to protect the coupe's performance... kind of sad. Or maybe a detuned 3.7 liter making 310-315 hp... I hope they don't, but they might. A sedan with the 3.7L would be very nice indeed, and the ONLY Infiniti combo I would consider purchasing. Yes, it matters that much to me, on principle if nothing else. More power AND better mileage? Friggin do it.
I don't like circumstances where manufacturers intentionally hold back vehicle performance. The answer is not to hold back the sedan... the answer is to fix the coupe with better engineering.
But with the coupe so much heavier... they may not put the 3.7 in the sedan... in order to protect the coupe's performance... kind of sad. Or maybe a detuned 3.7 liter making 310-315 hp... I hope they don't, but they might. A sedan with the 3.7L would be very nice indeed, and the ONLY Infiniti combo I would consider purchasing. Yes, it matters that much to me, on principle if nothing else. More power AND better mileage? Friggin do it.
I don't like circumstances where manufacturers intentionally hold back vehicle performance. The answer is not to hold back the sedan... the answer is to fix the coupe with better engineering.
#202
Originally Posted by trebien
To tell you the truth... in the past, putting the 3.7 in the sedan made sense on all levels... more power AND better gas mileage... a win-win.
But with the coupe so much heavier... they may not put the 3.7 in the sedan... in order to protect the coupe's performance... kind of sad. Or maybe a detuned 3.7 liter making 310-315 hp... I hope they don't, but they might. A sedan with the 3.7L would be very nice indeed, and the ONLY Infiniti combo I would consider purchasing. Yes, it matters that much to me, on principle if nothing else. More power AND better mileage? Friggin do it.
I don't like circumstances where manufacturers intentionally hold back vehicle performance. The answer is not to hold back the sedan... the answer is to fix the coupe with better engineering.
But with the coupe so much heavier... they may not put the 3.7 in the sedan... in order to protect the coupe's performance... kind of sad. Or maybe a detuned 3.7 liter making 310-315 hp... I hope they don't, but they might. A sedan with the 3.7L would be very nice indeed, and the ONLY Infiniti combo I would consider purchasing. Yes, it matters that much to me, on principle if nothing else. More power AND better mileage? Friggin do it.
I don't like circumstances where manufacturers intentionally hold back vehicle performance. The answer is not to hold back the sedan... the answer is to fix the coupe with better engineering.
I would've loved a G37 sedan but after test driving the G35S I felt it was fast enough and fell in love with the tech features. With the G35 Coupe weighing so much, I think it's safe to say it's VERY unlikely that Infiniti would make a G37 Sedan for the reasons you mention; truly a shame, however, they should've been able to make the G37 Coupe weigh less than the sedan. The 335i sedan weighs like 40 lbs more than the 335i coupe; not the case at the Infiniti camp
The G35S does drive really nice. The HR engine drives completely different. Builds much more linear power than the old VQ did. Feels faster than my 04 Z for sure.
#203
Originally Posted by G35er_in_TO
He also told me that he should have the GTR on his driveway in the not too far future. I asked him if he knew about pricing. He said its too early to tell, but he said around $80k Canadian (about $71K US).
#204
#205
Originally Posted by logik05se
i woudlnt say that putting the 3.7 in the sedan wouldnt make sense because of terms of "keeping the coupe faster". Supposidly (though i never seen this actually proven) the last gens sedan was faster as well.
The same holds for the 335i's the sedan is faster then the coupe.
The same holds for the 335i's the sedan is faster then the coupe.
The 335i sedan weighs like 40lbs more than the Coupe so I'm going to disagree with the 335i analogy. Obviously it's quite possible two different tests of two different 335i coupes and sedans could yield a faster sedan since 40lbs is so insignificant.
Our point is that if you put a 3.7 in the sedan and coupe, and had a 160lb discrepency, that would yield noticable differences in magazines and would actually end up being quoted in magazines as the sedan being faster. The 03-04 G35 and G35c never had anything about the sedan being faster quoted.
That WOULD hamper sales of the G37c. The G37c is about $2k more sticker than a similary equipped sedan. My sedan's MSRP was just over $37,500, and it appears that $37,500 buys me the same Coupe but without Nav (a 2k option).
All that said, Infiniti needs to have some interest in keeping the Coupe faster (or at this point as fast) as the sedan. I think the sedan looks better than the coupe (only for second gen, not for 1st gen), and the added flexibility of four doors would make it an 07 G37 Sedan an absolute no brainer for just about everyone.
Just my two cents.
Last edited by BrianV; 06-28-2007 at 09:50 AM.
#206
Originally Posted by Calgary_G
Following is an overview of Infiniti products for the 2008 model year.
2008 Infiniti G35 Sport Sedan
The 2008 G35 Sedan builds on the second-generation 2007 model’s myriad revisions, which included a next-generation 306-horsepower 3.5-liter V6; a striking new exterior defined by the sleek wave form hood, signature G-style taillights and pushed-back A-pillars for an athletic stance; a crafted, Takumi-inspired interior environment; and the audiophile-quality Infiniti Studio on Wheels by Bose.
The 2008 G Sedan offers a Sport Package for the G35X AWD model for the first time in G history and also receives minor refinements for the new model year.
Enhancements to the 2008 G Sedan include:
- All-new Sport Package available for G35x AWD model (late availability)
- New 18-inch Tire and Wheel Package for G35x AWD (late availability)
- Revised Technology and Navigation Packages
- Infiniti iPod Interface
- Driver’s Audio Stage
- Standard XM® Satellite Radio (requires XM® subscription, sold separately)
2008 Infiniti G35 Sport Sedan
The 2008 G35 Sedan builds on the second-generation 2007 model’s myriad revisions, which included a next-generation 306-horsepower 3.5-liter V6; a striking new exterior defined by the sleek wave form hood, signature G-style taillights and pushed-back A-pillars for an athletic stance; a crafted, Takumi-inspired interior environment; and the audiophile-quality Infiniti Studio on Wheels by Bose.
The 2008 G Sedan offers a Sport Package for the G35X AWD model for the first time in G history and also receives minor refinements for the new model year.
Enhancements to the 2008 G Sedan include:
- All-new Sport Package available for G35x AWD model (late availability)
- New 18-inch Tire and Wheel Package for G35x AWD (late availability)
- Revised Technology and Navigation Packages
- Infiniti iPod Interface
- Driver’s Audio Stage
- Standard XM® Satellite Radio (requires XM® subscription, sold separately)
#207
Originally Posted by PR G35S
Apparentlly he was right. The 3.7 might not fit the Sedan. Just read the C&D review posted on the G37 Forum and it mentioned that the 3.7's block is taller than the 3.5's
William
William
Even the July issue of C&D mentions this.. They said the 3.5 and the 3.7 are taller than the previous gen, not that the 3.7 is taller than the 3.5
#208
#210
Originally Posted by spacecowboy
personally, i think the 07 sedan looks better then the 08 g37 coupe. just my opinion, but the sedan does the curves more justice.
Whereas the previous G35 coupe was substantially better looking than the sedan; especially the 03-04 sedans.