Maintenace at dealer.. or who cares go anywhere?
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I think having someone who knows the vehicle do it has value.
They might spot something that Joe Schmoe might not (No offense to Joe Schmoe).
And I get coupons for service all the time from my dealer - no more than $25 - $30 - and they top off fluids, check belts, check tire pressure, etc.
They might spot something that Joe Schmoe might not (No offense to Joe Schmoe).
And I get coupons for service all the time from my dealer - no more than $25 - $30 - and they top off fluids, check belts, check tire pressure, etc.
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well my car is a lease so I dont care to take as good care as if I owned it.. (i love leasing!, new car every 2 years).
My question was more aimed at LEASERS...
Anyways.. I was just wondering what the price was at the dealer and if there is any reason in particular I should go to them...
I will probably just take it to the neighbor place to change the oil...
My question was more aimed at LEASERS...
Anyways.. I was just wondering what the price was at the dealer and if there is any reason in particular I should go to them...
I will probably just take it to the neighbor place to change the oil...
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08-20-2007, 12:09 AM
Major repairs and warranty work is all i want from the dealership.For oil changes my local infiniti dealer uses Valvoline synthetic blend for oil changes and i don't want that in my car.If i'm paying might as well put in what i want.
I seen the shop guys wash other peoples cars with old dirty water and crappy rags.That's a no-no.DIY.
I seen the shop guys wash other peoples cars with old dirty water and crappy rags.That's a no-no.DIY.
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Originally Posted by DRAGMODE
by all means....take your nice car to a jiffy lube. 
JIFFY LUBE SCAM PART 2!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiCAJ8ULnaI
JIFFY LUBE SCAM PART 2!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiCAJ8ULnaI
Chain stores like Jiffy Lube are convenient, but I don't trust them. I prefer to use Infiniti (they charge, with tax, $38 for an oil and filter change, which also includes fluid and tire checks). For something simple like oil & filter change, I'd be happy to also go to a Nissan dealership (closer to home). But for maintenance work, I definitely want an Infiniti dealership. I'd prefer mechanics who work on Infiniti cars all day, who have the necessary equipment to diagnose issues properly, and who have the Infiniti training. Once in a blue moon, I learn of a local mechanic I would really trust and who is really good. But those are hard to find, and even if they were good, they may not have the training and equipment, and day-to-day experience with G35s that would be nice to have.
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So true. There is a HUGE difference between the words "should" and "must". I write security policies, standards, and guidelines on a regular basis as part of my job...It's all about semantics.
While the G35 is indeed far from being a "supercar" as someone put it, I would prefer to either 1) take it to my dealership for their $39 service. This includes oil, filter, fluid checks/top off, tire check/top off (with nitrogen), loaner car, car wash, and massage with happy ending (ok, I threw that last one in to make sure you were still paying attention). OR 2) Do it myself. By the time I buy the oil, and filter, I'm almost to $40 already. I might as well have a qualified Infiniti service tech do it for me. Now, if they were to charge me $80 for the same thing, I would most certainly just do it myself. I've had enough bad experiences with Jiffy Lube and Valvoline Instant Oil Change to never go back again.
While the G35 is indeed far from being a "supercar" as someone put it, I would prefer to either 1) take it to my dealership for their $39 service. This includes oil, filter, fluid checks/top off, tire check/top off (with nitrogen), loaner car, car wash, and massage with happy ending (ok, I threw that last one in to make sure you were still paying attention). OR 2) Do it myself. By the time I buy the oil, and filter, I'm almost to $40 already. I might as well have a qualified Infiniti service tech do it for me. Now, if they were to charge me $80 for the same thing, I would most certainly just do it myself. I've had enough bad experiences with Jiffy Lube and Valvoline Instant Oil Change to never go back again.
Originally Posted by nsv
I couldn't put it in better words -
If it will give you peace of mind, than by all means... But I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
The warranty does not say you need to keep records/receipts of all your oil changes to keep your warranty... It says that Nissan may inspect them, and may use them against you... However, that would be illegal... Here's why:
If you read the ACTUAL warranty jargon, it doesn't say anything about having to produce receipts and records.... It just says to follow the owners manual. The owners manual says to follow the Infiniti Service and Maintenance Guide.
1.) The Maintenance Guide, is called a Guide. That has specific legal meaning.
2.) Page seven of the maintenance guide said that you should follow one of the maintenance schedules. The word "should" has a specific legal meaning.
3.) Page eleven of the maintenace guide says, "The services listed represent the minimal factory recommended requirements for each time/mileage interval..." The word "recommended" has a specific legal meaning.
Now, I'm not arguing that you shouldn't be properly maintaining your car... I'm just saying that all this nonsense with saving receipts and records, is a scare tactic to get you to use the dealer for your service needs. They will not have a legal leg to stand on, if they try to deny you a warranty claim...
(I work in the International Standards industry, and I work with legions of attorneys that hassle me all the time about legal definitions of phrases I use in the specifications that I write. Especially when it involves conveying mandatory requirements.)
The warranty allows you to perform these maintence items yourself. The warranty does not make any requirements on what needs to be conveyed in any written documenation about your maintence that was performed. Simply noting that you actually did something, is more than sufficient, becuase they cannot claim it is insufficient, because the requirements were never spilled out. For example, the warranty does not say that your maintence records needs to be notarized in front of a witness, etc, etc. Keeping receipts of your oil purchases etc is pointless, because it just proves you bought oil, it doesn't prove you actually used it, etc.
Source - https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...=168812&page=2
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If it will give you peace of mind, than by all means... But I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
The warranty does not say you need to keep records/receipts of all your oil changes to keep your warranty... It says that Nissan may inspect them, and may use them against you... However, that would be illegal... Here's why:
If you read the ACTUAL warranty jargon, it doesn't say anything about having to produce receipts and records.... It just says to follow the owners manual. The owners manual says to follow the Infiniti Service and Maintenance Guide.
1.) The Maintenance Guide, is called a Guide. That has specific legal meaning.
2.) Page seven of the maintenance guide said that you should follow one of the maintenance schedules. The word "should" has a specific legal meaning.
3.) Page eleven of the maintenace guide says, "The services listed represent the minimal factory recommended requirements for each time/mileage interval..." The word "recommended" has a specific legal meaning.
Now, I'm not arguing that you shouldn't be properly maintaining your car... I'm just saying that all this nonsense with saving receipts and records, is a scare tactic to get you to use the dealer for your service needs. They will not have a legal leg to stand on, if they try to deny you a warranty claim...
(I work in the International Standards industry, and I work with legions of attorneys that hassle me all the time about legal definitions of phrases I use in the specifications that I write. Especially when it involves conveying mandatory requirements.)
The warranty allows you to perform these maintence items yourself. The warranty does not make any requirements on what needs to be conveyed in any written documenation about your maintence that was performed. Simply noting that you actually did something, is more than sufficient, becuase they cannot claim it is insufficient, because the requirements were never spilled out. For example, the warranty does not say that your maintence records needs to be notarized in front of a witness, etc, etc. Keeping receipts of your oil purchases etc is pointless, because it just proves you bought oil, it doesn't prove you actually used it, etc.
Source - https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...=168812&page=2
Author - avs007
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08-20-2007, 11:55 AM
Originally Posted by Dweezil
So true. There is a HUGE difference between the words "should" and "must". I write security policies, standards, and guidelines on a regular basis as part of my job...It's all about semantics.
While the G35 is indeed far from being a "supercar" as someone put it, I would prefer to either 1) take it to my dealership for their $39 service. This includes oil, filter, fluid checks/top off, tire check/top off (with nitrogen), loaner car, car wash, and massage with happy ending (ok, I threw that last one in to make sure you were still paying attention). OR 2) Do it myself. By the time I buy the oil, and filter, I'm almost to $40 already. I might as well have a qualified Infiniti service tech do it for me. Now, if they were to charge me $80 for the same thing, I would most certainly just do it myself. I've had enough bad experiences with Jiffy Lube and Valvoline Instant Oil Change to never go back again.
While the G35 is indeed far from being a "supercar" as someone put it, I would prefer to either 1) take it to my dealership for their $39 service. This includes oil, filter, fluid checks/top off, tire check/top off (with nitrogen), loaner car, car wash, and massage with happy ending (ok, I threw that last one in to make sure you were still paying attention). OR 2) Do it myself. By the time I buy the oil, and filter, I'm almost to $40 already. I might as well have a qualified Infiniti service tech do it for me. Now, if they were to charge me $80 for the same thing, I would most certainly just do it myself. I've had enough bad experiences with Jiffy Lube and Valvoline Instant Oil Change to never go back again.
When there is an issue, the dealer just asks you to pay for it because they say you didn't follow maintenace as adviced. Some even refuse to fix it under warranty. It takes you many phone calls and visits or even threaten to resort to legal law suit to get it resolved. Good luck telling them the difference between "should" and "must"
I learned it the hard way with my Audi. I just don't have time and effort to argue with them anymore. I just let my dealer do my maintenance. If they ask for something outrageous then I go with different shop/dealer.
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08-20-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dweezil
While the G35 is indeed far from being a "supercar" as someone put it, I would prefer to either 1) take it to my dealership for their $39 service. This includes oil, filter, fluid checks/top off, tire check/top off (with nitrogen), loaner car, car wash, and massage with happy ending (ok, I threw that last one in to make sure you were still paying attention). OR 2) Do it myself. By the time I buy the oil, and filter, I'm almost to $40 already. I might as well have a qualified Infiniti service tech do it for me. Now, if they were to charge me $80 for the same thing, I would most certainly just do it myself. I've had enough bad experiences with Jiffy Lube and Valvoline Instant Oil Change to never go back again.
Some folks enjoy doing this stuff, so great for them. For me, sorry, I'd prefer to get it done at Infiniti or Nissan.
I also recall when I took a previous car to Jiffy Lube a couple of times in the past, and then I take it to the dealership for something else a few months later, and the dealership would make a comment like some fluid wasn't topped off right, or the fluid doesn't look like it got changed... I can only wonder if Jiffy Lube actually did their job...